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Any of You Dogs Been De-Sexed By Tubal Ligation?

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Saki

Cute Lil Hound o- Hell ;)
 
 
Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 5:00am PST 
I'm just wondering if anyone here has opted to have their dog de-sexed by having their tubes tied (tubal ligation; keeping hormones intact)?

(As opposed to the normal method of spaying - ovariohysterectomy, removing the entire uterus and ovaries and therefore hormones.)

If so, what you made you decide to do it this way?

And where did you have it done?

Thanks! smile x
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Saki

Cute Lil Hound o- Hell ;)
 
 
Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 6:48am PST 
Or even had a hysterectomy as opposed to a ovariohysterectomy? (ie, have one or both of their ovaries still so they still have hormones?)
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Cracker

Dog About- Rosedale

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Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 7:02am PST 
Hi Saki...my aren't you beautiful!

I have not had either of these procedures but I am curious as to why you are asking. I do know at the vet I worked at we had some health issues with dogs who had previously been spayed (full ovh) but some of the ovarian tissue had been left behind.

Hopefully you will get some answers from dogsters who have done this. I will be following this thread with interest.

Saki

Cute Lil Hound o- Hell ;)
 
 
Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 7:52am PST 
Thanks Cracker, you are quite the cutie yourself smile

I'm just want to explore all possible options and be as well informed as possible before making a decision re: desexing.

Obviously there are some important benefits of spaying:
-No risk of pregnancy
-Lower risk of mammary tumours (breast cancer)
-No risk of pyometra (uterine infection)
-No risk of ovarian and uterine tumours

However, there are also many serious risks of spaying, particularly for large and giant breeds, and especially for Akitas:
-Greatly increased risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer; fatal)
-Greatly increased risk of hemangiosarcoma (another extremely common fatal cancer)
-Greatly increased risk of orthopedic disorders (hip dysplasia and other bone problems)
-Risk of spay caused urinary incontinence
-Greatly increased risk of hypothyroidism
-Greatly increased risk of potentially fatal adverse reactions to vaccines
-Greatly increased risk of urinary tract tumours & TCC (bladder cancer)

The above risks are all caused by the lack of estrogen, which is caused by removal of the ovaries.

Added to this, Saki has a recessed vulva, causing vaginal dermatitis and vaginitis; which she will grow out of if her hormones are left intact; but will be a life-long problem if her ovaries and therefore hormones are removed before she is full-grown (which won't be til 18 months old.)

So I am considering whether perhaps desexing without removing the ovaries may be the best option.

I know it's an extremely contentious issue, however I'm not trying to push an agenda because I am neither pro- nor anti-desexing; I believe we all need to be as well informed as possible and do the right thing for own individual dogs' needs smile

So that's my extremely long-winded answer as to 'why' - basically I'm just trying to be as well informed as possible before making any definite decisions smile x
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Fun On The- Run Kennel- Racing

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Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 10:39am PST 
One problem with just tying the tubes is the dogs will still come into heat, won't they? I just had a dog have an ovariohysterectomy. She did really well! I have an appointment for two more dogs on Friday!
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Cracker

Dog About- Rosedale

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Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 3:20pm PST 
Thanks for the answer! It was helpful and shows that you truly are doing research and considering this for the right reasons. I was just concerned because there are so many false assumptions about OVH in dogs and cats.

I wonder if it would be helpful to see if their is an animal fertility specialist somewhere near you that may be able to give you some insight...you never know!
Saki

Cute Lil Hound o- Hell ;)
 
 
Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 5:26pm PST 
Thanks Racing Team, that's a good point!

I think if I don't get an ovariohysterectomy I'll get a hysterectomy with ovaries left intact rather than tubal ligation.

smile x
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Saki

Cute Lil Hound o- Hell ;)
 
 
Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 5:29pm PST 
Thanks Cracker smile

It's unfortunately such a complicated issue, I would love it if I could find a specialist vet who could give me some guidance!

I will keep looking for one, fingers crossed, thanks again smile x

PS What were the problems that the dogs you know had when having ovaries left behind? Mammary tumours? *worries*
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Cracker

Dog About- Rosedale

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Barked: Tue Jun 3, '08 6:12pm PST 
They were mostly behavioural issues with some incidences of fever or tender abdomens, so I guess we could safely assume the behavioural issues were related to hormonal flux. The fever etc we found that the left over ovarian tissue ( a very small amount of it) was inflamed for some reason. Once it was removed it was resolved.
Mojo

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Barked: Wed Feb 23, '11 2:02pm PST 
Have you had any luck with finding a facility that does tubal ligation? We are interested in pursuing this path rather than spaying. We have 2 puppies (also Akitas) and have read a great deal of the benefits of keeping the dogs intact until they mature.
We live in CT.
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