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Rant... And they think I'm an idiot...

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Shiver Me- Timbers- "Charlie"

My Little Dog, a- heartbeat at my- feet.<3
 
 
Barked: Fri Aug 10, '12 2:06pm PST 
My fiance's family is a whole lot of idiots with dogs. Literally. They just... yeah.

His brother has three kids all under the age of four, and they have a Lab/Border mix that they've had since a puppy and the poor dog gets NO exercise, no mental stimulation, NOTHING. And he locks her up constantly to keep her away from the kids even though she's great with the kids!

His mother... She has a Bichon/Shih-tzu about two years, and a 6 month GSD/Aussie mix puppy. These dogs are NEVER exercised, get no mental stimulation, are threatened with hands and feet(slaps and kicks), and the puppy is SO desperate for exercise and attention that she barks and whines and SHIVERS from the sheer amount of energy she has nothing to do with. I have seriously considered pup-napping this puppy. Super smart, super energetic, entirely focused on her people, is EXACTLY what I've always wanted in a dog and they DO NOTHING with her and feed her cheap crappy food while telling me "it's just as healthy as the expensive crap you feed!". When I told them my dog had seizures on their dog food, they looked at me strangely and said, "Dogs can have seizures?" silenced These people live in an RV park on the outskirts of the city, in their tiny trailer(not a house trailer, a camping trailer), with the dogs locked up in the house or a tiny fenced in patch of gravel.

Now... His sister. Ugh... She owns her own home, it's large, and she's got a huge privately fenced yard, yay! But she went and got herself a Pug/Cairn cross, got mad when I explained it was a 'mutt' and not a purebred at all, and this puppy is so OUT OF CONTROL hyper it's insane. She has four children - 10 year old, 4 year old, 2 year old and 1 year old. These children take ALL this attention that this puppy needs and she can't give enough to either halves - then she goes out and gets a fricken Irish Wolfhound puppy! While her other puppy is still an out of control puppy! With children that smother, hit and kick dogs and abuse them.

Well, fiance's mother laid into sister for getting an IW, and she got upset. Then my fiance laid into her for getting one when she has so many children, AND another puppy already. What does she do? Calls me and flips out that we RENT(omg, how dare we own dogs while renting!), that we have no yard(le gasp, because we have to escort our dogs outside for potty breaks and omg, we SUPERVISE all outdoor stuff!), and how dare WE lay into her, when we're not responsible owners.

We rent. We have no yard. Our dogs STILL get more mental and physical stimulation than ANY of their dogs. And while these are ALL people that will happily rehome a dog for ANY reason, we've NEVER rehomed dogs unless they were fosters and ALWAYS when finding new homes, waited until we found one that was pet friendly. How dare us for feeding expensive 'crap' that my dog doesn't have seizures on. How dare we walk our dogs and escort them outside for potty breaks because we don't have a yard. How dare we be a young couple with a dog and a puppy, when we plan to get married and eventually have kids - because dog forbid if things change in life for us - we might toss our dogs to the street the moment something changes! Not.

I even managed to keep my dog when I was homeless! Now THAT'S a feat! I rehabilitated and rehomed several dogs, and rehabilitated my own Rottie til she had to pass away. But as soon as his sister had to move, she got rid of her husky and lab OH. Forgot to mention - her Pug/Cairn puppy who is like... six-seven months old, is intact, escaped the yard, and now they believe she's pregnant because she escaped while she was in heat and she's getting fat. shh

I'm so frustrated it's unbelievable. I'm a renter, but that doesn't automatically mean I'm a bad, irresponsible owner. I'm young, that doesn't mean I'm going to be out partying instead of spending time with my dogs. I'm engaged, but that doesn't mean I'm going to jump to have babies and get rid of my dogs because, gasp, I had a baby(my dogs were socialized with kids/babies for a reason!). I have no yard, but my dog STILL gets more physical and mental stimulation, but I'm a bad owner because I can't have them in a fenced in area to play? My dogs are just as happy playing in the front, on long lines, as they are when off leash or at my moms farm, AS LONG AS IT MEANS THEY'RE OUTSIDE!

I'll never understand people... Seriously. I want to smack sense into people...

Edited by author Fri Aug 10, '12 2:09pm PST

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Bruno CGC

Honorary Kelpie
 
 
Barked: Fri Aug 10, '12 3:33pm PST 
I hear ya, Charlie. Just be assured, there are loads of us out there on your side... just come to Dogster when you need to vent. We all deal with caninely-clueless family and friends and coworkers and neighbors, when it's a battle to keep cool and not fly off the handle or turn into a bossy know-it-all when confronted with examples of this kind of stupidity... hang in there. Recently had a conversation with my boss who said his sister was breeding her Cavalier and Bichon together, was anyone interested in getting on the puppy list? Plus le gasp, Cavs SHED? Really? They all seemed surprised when I mentioned that, ya know, they're actually spaniels...

Plus my neighbor, who has a huge yard, gorgeous house, and loads of money, but kept all his dogs outside tied to a filthy doghouse when they weren't free to wander (and get squished on the highway and eat rat poison, hence he has no dog right now) has said he wants to get a German Shepherd puppy... Oh please no. That is NOT going to end well. I predict a 100% reduction in the local free-range chicken population... and lot of nighttime barking complaints.
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MIKA&KAI

Akita Pals- Always.
 
 
Barked: Fri Aug 10, '12 5:34pm PST 
Charlie and Family-hughughughughughughughughughughughughughughughughughughughug to you. Don't let the idiots of the world bother you,to the point of a heart attack!!!

As for SO's irresponsible family members and other idiots.naughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughtynaughty: n:naughtynaughty

I feel better now,hope you do ,too.
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Kashmir- ♥ CGC

Boxer Beach Bum
 
 
Barked: Fri Aug 10, '12 5:41pm PST 
Wow i feel you Charlie. Some people just get under our skin. naughtynaughtynaughty and shouldnt have dogs at all.
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Sonny

the world's- first blond,- agility Beagle
 
 
Barked: Sat Aug 11, '12 6:42pm PST 
I can think of so many good retorts for these idiots. Sadly, none will do a bit of good as they are clueless.

And have they met your dogs? I imagine they are very well behaved. Do they think they come that way?

I know…
Don't get you going again….silencedsilencedsilenced
meditatemeditatemeditate
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Jackson Tan

Lad about town
 
 
Barked: Sat Aug 11, '12 7:17pm PST 
Yep, sounds like my family too. Although the ones that are left are all too old to keep animals anymore and I don't speak to ths younger members so I don't know what they have grown up to be like with pets.

My grandmother threw kerosene up my grandfather's greyhound's butt and 'made it run' after it scratched up her floor. (It never came back.) Meanwhile my grandfather used to put dogs in a sack with a rock and chuck them off the docks. Ths yard was a cacophony of animals when my mother was growing up most of which died when they let them out to walk themselves (main road.) My aunt drove her dog out to the bush and left it there with a sandwich when my grandmother ordered her too.

But look, the animals weren't the worst thing, one of their daughters was killed coz they couldn't keep her in at night. Another severely retarded because they didn't get her to the doctor and then later she burned herself horribly in a fire because my grandmother was out drinking. I mean, they're just old world irresponsible people who don't seem to know how to deal with anything. There are a lot of people like this in the world that probably don't mean ill, but just screw everything up because they don't think.

My mother loves animals but was never really taught how to care for them and so it goes on ... and at least she took her cats to be euth'ed when they got sick and walked that dog she had for a while.

My aunt can't understand why I buy my dog toys and raw food and just don't open the gate and let him run! It's all in the raising.
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Shiver Me- Timbers- "Charlie"

My Little Dog, a- heartbeat at my- feet.<3
 
 
Barked: Sun Aug 12, '12 12:44pm PST 
Sonny - they do! In fact, they ALL comment on how good Ria is for being so young(she reliable sits, stays, etc at four months old), and while they think Charlie is a good dog, they think Beagles in general are 'dumb' because they follow their nose. wink

Next time I hear anything though, I AM going to retort with "You have a yard and mine still gets more exercise. Yard =/= exercise." or "Mine may be a Beagle, but he STILL listens more reliably! AND I don't have to threaten him with a hit or kick to get it!" or things like the crappy dog food retort, "My dog had seizures on that food.." and they were automatically dumbfounded. I've lived with FIVE dogs at once before, and they ALL got more than any of these people's dogs... Sigh. And no, they definitely don't come that way. It comes with training, and exercise, and socialization! And LOTS of effort and work on my part. None of which they do. shh

JT - silencedsilencedsilenced Omg.... My fiance was raised on a farm. The farmers shoot their dogs when they're too injured or old to heal themselves without vet care - my fiance still has the belief of shooting your dog dead to end its misery. I fought him about that concept many times. I'm big into rescue and we have totally different views on rescue dogs - he doesn't want another persons 'mistake and problems', whereas I find it more rewarding to rescue and rehabilitate than to raise a puppy. meditate
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Jackson Tan

Lad about town
 
 
Barked: Sun Aug 12, '12 8:50pm PST 
I live in a farming community and that's the general consensus around these parts too - that if a dog isn't good any more you just shoot and shovel. That's actually how I got JT! The farmer was going to shoot him because he had broken his leg but one of the hands listed him on Kijiji (sp?) for free. (I didn't know about the broken leg til later though when I noticed he had a limp, the vet told me he had broken it and it had just knitted by itself.) All they said was he wasn't a good worker.

He is terrified by anything that looks or sounds like a gun because they would just go out to the chains and shoot the dogs in front of the others. The other day I was putting his harness on for a walk and the fireplace made a 'pop' noise and he panicked and rammed his head into my leg trying to run. I still have the bruise. silenced

My husband is similar though, he says if he gets very sick (like cancer) or bitten by a snake he will have to be euthanized (at the vet, not with a gun), as he doesn't want him to suffer. Where as I would probably want to go for the treatment if it was feasible. It's probably a moot point anyway as vet care is VERY expensive around here. The snake anti-venom cost $6000 alone so that's really out of the question; I just choose to be very, very careful instead.

The next dog I get I would probably like to be a puppy as I've never had one before, but he is open to adopting a breed of his choice next time round (this dog was my choice), probably an Alaskan Malamute, which I don't mind. He is fairly good with dogs so I don't think he would have too much trouble with that breed. I don't think I want to throw myself into rehab again for a while because this dog has been very stressful for me, but it is rewarding to help an animal I agree.

Your fiancée does sound like he has a better attitude than his family especially concerning Ria.
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