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Dogos and American Bulldogs

If you are wondering what is the right dog for you, this is the place to be. In this introductory forum we talk about topics such as breed vs. mix, size, age, grooming, breeders, shelters, rescues as well as requirements for exercise, space and care. No question is too silly here. This particular forum is for getting and giving helpful, nice advice. It is definitely not a forum for criticizing someone else's opinion, knowledge or advice. This forum is all about tail wagging and learning.

  
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Mulder

Spooky Mulder
 
 
Barked: Wed May 30, '12 1:40pm PST 
Haven't started a good discussion thread in a while, so why not.

While doing some protection stuff recently I got to see a really nice Am Bulldog work. Not flashy, but very powerful and confident. Tiller always mentioned that people in sport were moving to them, and I guess I can somewhat see the appeal now.

I'm not really into bully breeds, but I do have a strictly cosmetic attraction to the more mastiff-looking bullies, and Dogos in particular I find to be stellar looking. Am Bulls are fine dogs too of course, but that distinct "bulldog" look just doesn't do it for me at all.

I wonder how close the two are in terms of working ability and how they both compare in handling. A bully is a bully, no free lunches and whatnot, but I wonder if there's any definite "thing" that would steer someone interested in both away from one or the other?

Personally I've never run across an Am Bulldog breeder that I would want to patron, even if I was actively looking. It seems to be a definite "circle" of people, and while it may be what those within the breed look for, it just leaves a bad taste for me. I've never even looked into Dogos, don't know what the population is like here in the states, All I've ever seen in the ways of breeders is the Las Pampas kennel page, and to be honest I get a scuzzy feel from it.

Thoughts, discussion, whatever you've got.
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Twister

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Barked: Wed May 30, '12 3:15pm PST 
I have a friend who has a Dogo, but she lives in Brazil...slightly easier to find them there.smileIf I am swayed in which one I prefer (Dogos or ABs), it is probably towards Dogos simply because of her dog. I have only seen pictures and video (and heard her talk about him), but he looks and seems pretty cool. big grin Very protective, and also seems very intelligent and loving. They also have a Rottie (both are for protection); and between the two I was just more impressed with the Dogo, gave a better vibe than just being all brawn. Buut, that about limits my experience with them. I have met Am Bulldogs (and I like them), but I am still more impressed with the Dogo I have not met.way to go
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Zephyr

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Barked: Wed May 30, '12 4:04pm PST 
There's a woman I know vaguely through another message board who works her bullies in Mondioring and one of hers just got his MR1. She's got some very nice ones who are great. You kind of have to take a different approach to them (obviously) since their natural affinity is lower but her dogs are awesome. I'll have to look up her her dogs and see if I can get some pictures. I'd likely head over to WDF and ask for some breeder recs.

I find Dogos hard to get a handle on. Personally I feel they're going the way of the Cane Corso in this country and becoming progressively more unstable. The only bloodlines I'd consider would be active hog-dogs and I'd need to meet everyone involved. Even then I think they're much more of a crapshoot than average. I also don't know if it's the bloodlines here or not but their hips seem to have collective suckage.

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Budro

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Barked: Wed May 30, '12 6:21pm PST 
I don't know much about either breed, mainly because I'm not really into bully breeds(I prefer fluffy/shepherd type dogswink ), and also because based on what little research I've done, I know I don't have enough experience to own either one. However, if I did have the experience and know-how, I'd go with the Dogo Argentino. I don't like the "Bulldog" face of the Am.Bulldog very much, I prefer the mastiff type face and the lankier type bodies (kinda similar to the Great Dane and the Dogo Argentino is pretty close to that).

But of course my choice is based completely on looks as I don't know enough of either breed to make a decision based on temperament, health, etc..
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Happy

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Barked: Wed May 30, '12 7:25pm PST 
I know a woman who works a couple of dogo's at the closest club to me. They are not for the faint of heart... however these are very agile dogs.. They do leap and jump and her bigger male is one of the few dogs that the clubs two decoy's are nervous about... not because he's unstable but because he's dead serious and hits like a tank. He get's a lot of air with his jumps and seems to get enjoyment out of taking down Decoys.

As a breed I can't say as a whole... but for these two I've been impressed. They aren't a breed I'd ever want to handle but they are impressive to watch.
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Keira

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Barked: Thu May 31, '12 3:15am PST 
I am partial to bully breeds, but as far as choosing between Dogo and AmBulldog....I don't think I would seek out either one since I found my match in the APBT. Taking the APBT out of the equation for the sake of the discussion:
I think if I were really keen to take on either, it would be the Dogo, because they are a very intense dog, which I love. But I would likely try to find a breeder that could be trusted in their country of origin, because like someone stated earlier, the breed is getting unstable in this country. American Bulldogs are good dogs, but a lot of breeders (around here at least) are going for extreme looks instead of function. When that happens, you end up with these giant hulks of a dog that can be unstable or poorly functioning. shrug If I have a dog, I want it to be able to work.
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Angel Lou

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Barked: Thu May 31, '12 6:59am PST 
I was infatuated with these brilliant dogs for quite awhile, they definitely are not cut off my list. Although, I have been around many bully breeds, and worked with numerous numbers. I am waiting until I have more experience with them. Which may sound weird, as I grew up with and helped raise Cane Corso Italiano.

They are, as Happy stated not for the faint of heart. They are very powerful and willful breed. They are not out to please your ever will, they have a certain stubbornness about them. Seems to me they feel that their ways of doing things, may be better than what you are telling them. Definitely smart as whips, just a bit stubborn. In the sense of loyality, I would say they are like a Rottweiler, but X5 in intensity. To the family, they are very loving, gentle, and devoted animals. If raised and socialized properly, they will tolerate strangers, if not socialized though...some aggression tendencies may occur. All and all, they are remarkable dogs. Someday for me cloud 9
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Mulder

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Barked: Tue Jun 5, '12 7:21am PST 
Oops, let this thread die out shh

Personally I feel they're going the way of the Cane Corso in this country and becoming progressively more unstable.

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who got that vibe. Then again, there are goods and bads to everything- I would never dream of being flippant when selecting a Corso, but then again neither would I with a GSD. That said, there are a couple of Corso breeders I actually keep my eye on wishfully as I do like their operation and what their dogs appear to be (because who really knows until you dive in).

But even with my few Corso breeders I like, I've still not really found a Dogo kennel that strikes my fancy. I've found a couple of kennels that seem to be decent... but my gut here is telling me that "decent" isn't enough for this breed.

BTW, got your link Zeph, and those are some nice looking ABs. I wish I could actually find kennels like this, though.
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Lucille

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Barked: Tue Jun 5, '12 7:45am PST 
I've yet to meet a stable Dogo. They seem to be always displaying signs of nervous anxiety. What has really gotten me to lose interest is that kids seem to make them really antsy. I know a few and they're never quite comfortable around kids, they seem to breathe a sigh of relief as soon as the kids take off. I wouldn't recommend them for the average US suburban neighborhood in the slightest. That impression could certainly come from the fact that I've not met any well-bred ones, also haven't seen them in their native countries. Their socialization isn't lacking and their owners are very experienced, though. Thankfully, they're well-managed. Totally agree that they are athletic and super jumpers, high fences required.

I don't know many Am Bulldogs, the dog circles I'm in still prefer pits and other large breed terriers. The few I've met seem to be very mastiff like, almost more like a Dane than a bulldog...very handsome dogs.
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Mulder

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Barked: Tue Jun 5, '12 8:06am PST 
I just have a hard time getting into the bully mentality. I've yet to see a kennel that wasn't in the vein of "bada$$ tough dawgs!!!". Even the ones who really are working their dogs (or at least doing SOMETHING with them)... its just hard for me to get into.

Now that could just be me. I guess I want something more... refined? I hope that's not tacky of me to say.
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