GO!

Czechoslovakian /German Shepherds

If you are wondering what is the right dog for you, this is the place to be. In this introductory forum we talk about topics such as breed vs. mix, size, age, grooming, breeders, shelters, rescues as well as requirements for exercise, space and care. No question is too silly here. This particular forum is for getting and giving helpful, nice advice. It is definitely not a forum for criticizing someone else's opinion, knowledge or advice. This forum is all about tail wagging and learning.

  
(Page 1 of 3: Viewing entries 1 to 10)  
Page Links: 1  2  3  
Angel Lou

Everybody wants- to be a...DOG!- not a CAT
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 2:54pm PST 
Well, heres how the interest of this breed started. My neice was telling about how she had career day, at her school today. She went to go see the K-9 unit class. She said they had a Belgian Malinois and a Czechoslovakian Shepherd. The Belgians name was Ricotto and the Czech. Shepherd was name Fierdo.

So, I haven't heard much of the breed, only the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog. Out of curiousity I looked up an image of them on Google. They are quite magnificant, that is for certain! I like the coloration/markings more so that the traditional sadle in the German Shepherd. It seems to me, that their bone structure is also larger, which I like as well.

Now, this is just out of plan curiousity, no serious intentions. What is the differance though between, German Shephers and Czechoslovakian Shepherd? Temperament, Health, Energy/Drive etc.

dog walk
[notify]
y

dog-sitter in- charge.
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 2:59pm PST 
I suppose they mean a German Shepherd Dog whose lines are based from those bred in the former Czechoslovakia.

I don't think "Czechoslovakian Shepherd" is a breed, only that they were specifying what lines the GSD was from.
[notify]
Angel Lou

Everybody wants- to be a...DOG!- not a CAT
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 3:19pm PST 
Well, if you could elaborate, what is the differance between the two bloodlines. If you don't mind me asking smile
[notify]

Mulder

Spooky Mulder
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 3:30pm PST 
The Czech dogs are German Shepherds, as Lilith said. The line is considered separate because the breeding goals and practices are quite different than the other splinter lines.

Here's an old summary from a previous thread on the various lines:

Within the breed, there are 4 main "lines" of dog to consider.

The first is the American show type. Many consider these to be the dirge of the Shepherd breed, as they are often very extreme in show type (with the extreme downward angualtion in the back so often shown) and poor working temperament. However, because of this lack in drive, often have a more appropriate or managable temperament for the first time owner. I will speak further on this type in a moment, as there is a lot to say, so bear with my while I run through the others.

Next you have West German Show. They, like the American dogs, often have extreme show types, with what is known as a "roach" back. Because the SV (German registry for GSDs) requires working titles on dogs before they are bred, nearly all are titled in Schutzhund. HOWEVER, the "schutzhund" being done for many of these dogs is often considered "watered down", as many are trained strictly to pass at the sport... not to excel at it. Drives can be highly variable, but most have a stable temperament.

Next you have West German Working lines. These are probably the most common dogs seen in Schutzhund, and are generally not extreme in conformation. They often have VERY high prey drive, to the point where some have become "prey monsters", and may NEED a good working outlet to be considered manageable. They often do good in multiple venues, including agility, tracking, herding, etc.

Lastly, you have the DDR/Czech bred dogs. There are differences between the two types (DDR and Czech), but for simplicity's sake, as they ARE similar and often interbred with each other, I will cover them in one shot. These are the dog you are most likely going to see doing K9 or serious protection work. These dogs are not nearly as prey driven as the West German Working dogs, but instead have defensive and fighting drive in excess. They are perhaps the least extreme in conformational type, and may actually deviate from the standard most of all in that conformation is rarely a factor in their breeding.
[notify]
Twister

Love me.
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 3:59pm PST 
We had a K9 unit come to our school too. They have three Shepherds, two from the States, and one imported from Czechoslovakia (very pretty dog!)-his name is Reiko. smile His handler says at home he is just like part of the family, counter-surfing and all. laugh out loud They would definitely need a job to do, they are very intelligent. Reiko knows when he is on duty and off. He is a very sweet dog!big grin

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3635980269383&l=01 da49307e

Edited by author Wed May 23, '12 4:21pm PST

[notify]
y

dog-sitter in- charge.
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 4:26pm PST 
big grin Czechoslovakia no longer exists.. puppy so where exactly did the dog come from? I assume the Czech Republic?
[notify]
Twister

Love me.
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 4:58pm PST 
Lol, yes you are correct, my bad (he did say Czech Republic too). laugh out loud I did know that, but for some odd reason I have always liked the name Czechoslovakia so that is just how I think of it (I know, I'm weird, but it's a cool name-too bad they changed it.) hamster dance

...wonder how come they still call them Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs? thinking

Edited by author Wed May 23, '12 5:00pm PST

[notify]
Bretta - **Guardian- Angel Now**

10/2005 RIP- 12/2008
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 5:55pm PST 
Moulder's last paragraph really summed them up; they aren't for the average person.
[notify]
Bruno CGC

Honorary Kelpie
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 6:00pm PST 
I wanted to add, Angel, that sables can be found in every type of GSD. I too find it prettier than "regular" saddleback pattern. There are American and Euro showline sables, they're less common but certainly not unheard of. One of the most famous popular sable sires in recent history is Timo von Berrekasten, this one . (German show type.)

Here is an American sable showline dog:
Sea-Lair's Ciera

Here is an American "old fashioned" GSD, a type bred for the pet market, and is a blend of American show and Euro working bloodlines usually, and bred to be oversized and less angulated:
Pioneer's Sig
[notify]
y

dog-sitter in- charge.
 
 
Barked: Wed May 23, '12 7:01pm PST 
Czechoslovakian Vlcaks are called Czechoslovakian Vlcaks because the breed originated in Czechoslovakia when it existed, and currently can come from the Czech Republic or Slovakia but not Czechoslovakia... wink Just like the name Rhodesian Ridgeback - Rhodesia no longer exists.
[notify]
  (Page 1 of 3: Viewing entries 1 to 10)  
Page Links: 1  2  3