Bulldog lovers help!

If you are wondering what is the right dog for you, this is the place to be. In this introductory forum we talk about topics such as breed vs. mix, size, age, grooming, breeders, shelters, rescues as well as requirements for exercise, space and care. No question is too silly here. This particular forum is for getting and giving helpful, nice advice. It is definitely not a forum for criticizing someone else's opinion, knowledge or advice. This forum is all about tail wagging and learning.

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♥The- Brat- Pack♥-

This is just the- way we roll!!!

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 12:02am PST


	Hello everyone I have always wanted an English Bulldog and have been doing a LOT research on them. Im NOT going to get one any time soon. But I want to be prepared when that time comes. I came across a Olde English Bulldog. To me they look JUST like english Bulldogs but with longer legs! What is the differance in the two breeds? Temperament wise and health etc? You guys are great thanks!!

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The Urban- Hounds- (Formerly- the

Every dog must- have his day.

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 6:00am PST


	I know how much you love pugs, so first let me tell you that in my experience pugs and bulldogs are pretty different. Bob, our bulldog, is more stubborn and I think a lot more challenging then a pug, but I sort of like taht about him. He is very intelligent and very food motivated and picks up tricks quickly. He doesnt require tons of exercise but is not nearly as lazy as the sterotype of the english bulldog he can go for a good couple hours hike. He requires a lot of structure in his home environment and is somewhat nervous in new situations, despite lots of socialization. We had some issues with him fighting with his dog siblings when he was an adolescent and with the help of a lot of training and time we got past the issue. I am not saying that all english bulldogs have these issues but I spoke to many people in the breed and its not uncommon. The thing with Bob, and lots of bulldogs, is he has sort of a low threshold for excitement. He is either very calm or going very crazy. We have worked a lot with him with positive training and he is much much better now. Im not concerned about adding a future dog to our home someday with him in it, as he is our youngest dog this will likely happen, but I would still not take him to a dog park or an off leash dog event. He does regularly go to leashed dog events and is perfectly behaved. I am not saying its a reson not to get a bulldog, but its something to consdier. Overall pugs are a lot mellower. As for olde english plus standard english bulldogs I personally dont feel that the olde english are healthier. If you go to a good englisgh bulldog breeder then you can get a healthy dog. Bulldogs are very pricey though and I wouldnt trust a breeder who didnt charge 2500 or more since the pups should generally be born via c section or under extremely close supervision. Also, you should be prepared for potentially expensive health issues. I have heard from some people, not even sure were, that dog agression issues were possibly worse in old english bulldogs.

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My Lucky8

big packs rule!

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 7:02am PST


	i've never owned a bulldog or olde english bulldog but some of my neighbors had an olde english bulldog. she was a pretty good dog. they did nothing with her as far as training ect so she jumped mouthed ect. From what i saw the olde english is pretty high energy compared to the bulldog

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♥The- Brat- Pack♥-

This is just the- way we roll!!!

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 2:01pm PST


	Thanks so much for your input lucky 7 and fantastic five. I have met quite a few bulldogs I have met some that are SERIOUSLY dog aggressive and then other that were the sweetest dogs you have ever met. We were thinking when and if we do we'd get a female and have her spayed asap because Harley is the sweetest boy ever but he is very dominant. Not aggressive at all but does not like a challenging male. I found a local breeder and met her and her dogs. She is a member of the BCNC (Bulldog Club of Northern California) and she only owns three dogs. Two females and one male. And all her dogs were super friendly, the friendliest I have ever met. I think when the time comes I will be using her. She has one sweet little male left right now. But I really dont want to worry about future fights so if my hubby allows it we will have to get a female from her next litter. Fingers Crossed Also one more thing we really wanted to rescue because they are so pricey and why not give a bulldog in need a home. But we only found ONE and they said he was NOT good with other dogs. Why are there no bulldog rescues?

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Rickards

I'll always love- you...

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 2:31pm PST


	My mom owned an Olde English Bulldogge. He wasn't aggressive at all to anything and he was really sweet and had spurts of playfulness. I will say though that if a dog picked a fight with him, he wouldn't back down, but he never started anything ever. I've never met a reg. Bulldog before though so I don't know much about their personalities. However i just have to say this, I have never seen a more high maintence dog in my life. My mom had to clean his folds, ears and eyes almost everyday and no matter what she fed him or bathed him in, he stank! Her dog also ended up needing facial surgery to remove some of the folds on his forehead and under his eyes because they were causing health issues and had to correct a cherry eye in both eyes. He wasn't from the best breeder, but man or man that dog cost alot in health care. So I would be prepared for anything and really do alot of research on any breeder you go with. Milton was awesome, but super expensive!

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The Urban- Hounds- (Formerly- the

Every dog must- have his day.

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 2:41pm PST


	Well the female might work but lots of breeders I talked too told me the females where more trouble then the males. That might have been with other females though. Bob has calmed down a lot and plays very nice with his siblings. His problems were always more at the dog park, I think what happens is he gets super excited and the excitement can spin over to aggression. When he was an adolescent this problem was worse The spay may work and I will get my next bulldog more quickly then I did with Bob, not due to aggression or anything but just because I think he was calmer afterwards. However, you should know spay/neuter effect bulldog growth and a lot of breeders reccomend waiting until a year/year and a half for spay On the plus size Bob doesnt smell at all, except when he is farting which is a lot of the time, and needs only a daily wrinkle wipe down.

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The Urban- Hounds- (Formerly- the

Every dog must- have his day.

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 2:41pm PST


	Well the female might work but lots of breeders I talked too told me the females where more trouble then the males. That might have been with other females though. Bob has calmed down a lot and plays very nice with his siblings. His problems were always more at the dog park, I think what happens is he gets super excited and the excitement can spin over to aggression. When he was an adolescent this problem was worse The spay may work and I will get my next bulldog more quickly then I did with Bob, not due to aggression or anything but just because I think he was calmer afterwards. However, you should know spay/neuter effect bulldog growth and a lot of breeders reccomend waiting until a year/year and a half for spay On the plus size Bob doesnt smell at all, except when he is farting which is a lot of the time, and needs only a daily wrinkle wipe down.

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Stella RIP

'06-'09 forever- loved

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 3:40pm PST


	I adopted Stella from a shelter, but I believed her to be an Olde English Bulldog. She was terrified of the world at first, but as we bonded her true colors came out. She was friendly and very stable around people and other dogs, but she had some prey drive and wanted to chase cats if I didn't stop her. She had a keen intelligence, learned quickly and was a total joy to live with. Unfortunately she was probably the product of a puppy mill and had severe health issues. First she developed horrible allergies and had to live on prednizone. Then her ACL in her right leg ripped, and while she was recovering from that surgery, the other one went out. I'd own another one in a heartbeat if I could be reasonably sure they wouldn't have the health issues my Stella girl did.

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♥The- Brat- Pack♥-

This is just the- way we roll!!!

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 3:42pm PST


	Thank you so much guys! Like Rikards said my Harley would NEVER EVER start a fight but if a dog starts one with him he will not back down. Everyone tells me they think he has a little bulldog in him because hes just so tough and he's built like one. He's a BIG muscular Pug too almost 25 lbs. Anyway I had no idea about that! That they shouldnt be fixed for that long? When did you have Bob neutered? My other dogs are just fine with all other dogs as is Harley and if we even had an unneutered male he'd accept it fine but if it attempted to pick a fight he wouldnt shy away. Rickards I have some experience, I have Pugs! I clean their face wrinkles once a day and like the Fantastic Five said mine dont stink unless they fart, which is quite often. LOL My Pugs came from an AMAZING breeder and I wouldnt search for an less in a Bulldog breeder. Thanks so much guys for your input! Keep it coming!

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Audrey- Hepbull

I am not dumb, I- am ignoring you.

Barked: Tue Oct 19, '10 3:59pm PST


	I LOVE LOVE LOVE my bulldog! LOVE her! I have never had a time in my life when I didn't have a dog, but my bulldog is hands down my favorite dog EVER. EVER. She is a CHALLENGE to train, absolutely. Stubborn to a fault, very independant and super intelligent. That is one of the things I love best about her. I KNOW she listens to me because she WANTS to. And believe me, they let you know full well that it is their CHOICE. She can not be forced into anything, she is extremely sensitive to tone of voice, mood and attitude. When you read about their sensitivity, believe it.I am amazed at the difference in how in tune she is to me & our family vs all the other dogs I have lived with(German Shepherd, pit bull mix, lab mix,english setters, samoyeds, collie, collie mix). None of them were as sensitive as Audrey. I LOVE that about her. Many people give up trying to train them, but I promise you it CAN be done. Mine is very reactive around other dogs, made much worse by a dog park attack. The other post described my girl perfectly, high energy that turns to aggression. We have hired a CPDT trainer to help us deal with it. My bulldog at 23 months has no chronic health issues. The techs at the vets office always tell me they can't believe she smells so good, because most of the bulldogs they see stink. She had a rough period around a year old, but it turned out to be entirely food related. Once we fed her properly, no more issues. Make sure you check all the health tests performed on your potential puppy's parents. Hips, eyes, heart. There are bulldog breeders who unfortunately do NOT consider health before they breed, and those are the expensive horror stories you hear about. The problem with Olde English bulldogs is they are not a standardized, established breed yet, so there is no telling really what you will end up with. There are different crosses , different sizes, and different temperaments. You would have to go by the parents/grandparents and really get to know them to try to determine what the pups will be like. English Bulldogs are expensive, for pet quality expect to pay at least $2,000. They are worth every bit though, there is no other dog like them!

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