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Black Russian Terriers

If you are wondering what is the right dog for you, this is the place to be. In this introductory forum we talk about topics such as breed vs. mix, size, age, grooming, breeders, shelters, rescues as well as requirements for exercise, space and care. No question is too silly here. This particular forum is for getting and giving helpful, nice advice. It is definitely not a forum for criticizing someone else's opinion, knowledge or advice. This forum is all about tail wagging and learning.

  
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Jin

I'm going with- you, right?
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 16, '10 8:52pm PST 
Hmm...why am I not surprised you have a Macaw and a Cockatoo, Tiller? thinking laugh out loud

Admittedly I don't know a great deal about parrots and their different species despite that my ma has always had them (currently she's down to a Congo Grey, a Timneh Grey, and a Quaker that has decided he doesn't like her anymore and only loves my father), but I know some basics. I do talk with them, and like them though, even if I don't entirely trust the Timneh and Quaker my ma has. I've been told, by her, that I'll inherit whatever birds she has at the time when she can no longer care for them.

There's an Amazon at the pet store downtown that I've known for years (we've known the owners for longer). Any time I'm in there I make sure to visit Duncan and chat with him a bit: he seems to enjoy the visits, especially as I imagine most visitors are probably generally annoying for a bird.
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Tucker, CGC,- TDI

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Barked: Fri Apr 16, '10 9:14pm PST 
Tiller! You find Hyacinths sad? With those big old smiley beaks?!!!!!!! And scarlets ... well, actually, and I don't know how much experience you've had with them ... it would not surprise me to find out that it's been a lot ... you seem to have your hand in just about everywhere from dogs to horses to parrots ... but in fact scarlets are not nearly the wretched feather heads that they are purported to be. I've known and loved a number of them over the years, including several wild caughts, and when the bond is there and you can read them well ... I would argue that there are not too many more engaging parrot companions than a scarlet. In all honesty, though, were I going to "match" you, I think I would choose a greenwing for you, for while it's very difficult to compare a dog to a parrot, a lot of what you say about Giants could also be said about greenwings. So many people seem to think that they are just a bigger version of the scarlet, when in fact that is not the case. My personal parrot poison, at least in terms of macaws, would be the severe (aka chestnut fronted) and also the red fronted macaw. There again, I have known and loved and raised quite a few of these guys over the years. Severes, like scarlets, are often misunderstood and red fronteds just haven't ever enjoyed the popularity of the larger, flashier macaws, but there is much to recommend them in terms of their companion qualities. Just really good eggs.

Overall ... and this probably comes out of left field, but there you go ... the parrot of my heart, that just melts me, is the Alexandrine, the largest of the Psittacula species, which is oft-maligned, but when well-raised and socialized are some of the most engaging parrots I've ever lived with, with the vocab capability and cognition that often times will rival a Congo grey, though certainly you will know with them that it is a parrot speaking, rather than swearing it is your husband (or wife or Great Uncle Milton).

Now ... a Moluccan as well?!!!!!!!!!!!! You must have the patience of a saint!!! Mols and Umbies, sweet as they are, are really just not my cup of tea. For one thing, I just can't deal with that much noise. Essentially they would fall into the category, for me, of parrots that I prefer to enjoy at someone else's home. laugh out loud Were I going to live with a 'too, I would choose a citron or a Goffins, and I'd definitely DNA and get a female.
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Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M

I DO Exist...To- Drive You Batty
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 16, '10 9:44pm PST 
I will tell you guys a funny story! A VERY amazing one, I think....although with Jin I will need to advise that Moluccans are very needy birds who will call for attention and they are really, REALLY loud! They love to be cradled and cuddled, and are HUGE and very soft.

I am parrotless right now and miss my birds so gosh darned much! They require so much attention....certainly mine were used to it....and with mom getting Parkinson's, marriage at a crossroads, I really didn't want my birds, who were both so perfect, to notice the lesser attention and suffer for it.

Anyhow, TUCKER! Here is my amazing story about my Moluccan. I had her shipped to me from a Florida breeder. She was a baby, just through with the hand feeding but still appreciating it for nurturing support (Toronto actually wanted his granola mash handfeeding until he was two and a half). Anyhow, when we checked on the flight info, there was to be a change over at Logan, then a quick flight to Providence. Tiller's Sylvia had taught me to always check on these changeovers. So I did. And I knew something was wrong. She was not being listed as having yet boarded the flight, they seemed to be having trouble finding her, although her originating flight had landed and had been offloaded. Call it gut instinct, but I knew someone was stealing my bird. Fortunately, my ex is very used to following my hunches, and I told him we needed to burn rubber FAST! As I had it figured, an employee had nabbed her and stashed her, and thought he had a little time. We FLEW up, on the phone, someone found her in a dark, dank storage warehouse! We got there and claimed her.

Now I will say, proof of the pudding, I told my breeder I was going to demand my money back from the airline. She said I would NEVER get it. That she had lost birds left on the runway and baked in the sun, and never saw a cent. But they returned my ship fee, PLUS more for gas money and inconvenience, with a check that if cashed prevented me from any other claim. So THEY KNEW. This wasn't a bird getting misplaced...someone was trying to nab her. It was only for the airports being so close together that we were able to thwart them.

So poor Bobo was a wreck! On a noisy plane, and then in some cold, dark place with lots of clanging and banging going on. I brought her home, put her in her room in her cage, shut the door, and gave her some peace and quiet, occasionally coming in to reassure her and coo at her, but really going for that quiet.

WOW, did that have an effect. The closed door and her quiet time imprinted, and she grew to be the quietest Moluccan EVER! I never heard her scream. All I did was when I wanted her to enjoy herself quietly, I'd give her some toys and some nuts to shell, and then shut the door. That shutting of the door was so much a salvation on that dark day in her life, it was nothing but comfort in her eyes, and she was quiet as a mouse.

Loved both my birds. I like the brat boy persona of the Blue & Gold. I always shoot high, so when I decided to get a parrot, I wanted the BIGGEST kind. Then I went for what seemed the easiest (B&G) and studied my arse off. Read a LOT of Rosemary Low, and tried my best to offer them a life that allowed as much natural behavior as possible. Both my parrots proved to be absolutely model citizens.

I miss having one terribly! Cannot wait for another. Don't know what it will be, but it sure is fun thinking on it!

I cared for a Military for a brief while. Tiller went bananas, raced right over in full umph mode, got his big old Schnauzer nose tweaked, and never thought of trying that sort of stuff again laugh out loud He'd sooner challenge a bear wink

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Tucker, CGC,- TDI

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Barked: Fri Apr 16, '10 10:51pm PST 
Wow, Tiller, that's a scary story, and unfortunately I have heard its like a time or two before. For several years, starting in my twenties, I mentored with a wonderful breeder of parrots, and all of my parrots, except for Bogie, my yellow nape, I actually raised myself. Anyway, being in Florida, we had a lot of snowbirds who would come down in the winters and buy birds, and then so and so back home would want one and would want to have it shipped. Most of the horror stories I've heard about have been more along the lines of mishandling and stupidity, rather than theft, but we had one too many close call and that was that. No more shipping. I'm glad your story ended happily ... sounds like a close one!

Sadly enough, I am also parrotless, going on three years now, and I absolutely hate it! For me it was medical ... I started having trouble breathing, started making the rounds of doctors, and finally after about a year of making the rounds and refusing to listen to what the doctors were telling me, I was basically told that either I "got rid of" my parrots or risked permanant lung damage. Fortunately, I was able to, with the help of another breeder friend, find wonderful homes for all of them. As socialized as they were, I know they are fine, and in fact I have heard through my friends that helped me place them that they are all doing wonderfully, but it was quite a blow. As you know, the lovely thing about parrots is that even the smaller guys can live twenty or thirty years, and the macaws, 'zons, and other big guys sixty to eighty. With dogs and cats breaking your heart by only sticking around fifteen or so, it was always a huge comfort to me that I'd have my parrots for a long long time, and that a couple of them would likely outlive me. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.

I agre with you about the blue and golds. As popular as they are, I got to know a good number of them, and there is, as you know, good reason for their popularity. Pretty "steady Eddies," most of them, nice and stable, very engaging, and not for nothing did they get the nickname "blue 'toos." Other than my Alexandrines, which above all others I adore, the macaws were my favorites. I confess that, like you, there is that part of me that wants the "biggest" and the "most," but beyond that I just love(d) how tactile they are ... that huge beak touching so gently, and the way they use their tongues ... just too precious. And of course the way they oh-so-charmingly blush when excited!
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Cracker

Dog About- Rosedale

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Barked: Thu Apr 29, '10 6:36am PST 
Just to get a bit back on topic....
We now have a six month old female Giant in our intermediate puppy class. Her owner is a wonderful, warm and amusingly scattered (when it comes to training) older man. This could be interesting. LOL
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