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If you are wondering what is the right dog for you, this is the place to be. In this introductory forum we talk about topics such as breed vs. mix, size, age, grooming, breeders, shelters, rescues as well as requirements for exercise, space and care. No question is too silly here. This particular forum is for getting and giving helpful, nice advice. It is definitely not a forum for criticizing someone else's opinion, knowledge or advice. This forum is all about tail wagging and learning.
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Ping
Princess Ping-Im- the boss
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Barney
I Live to Please |
 | | Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 10:28pm PST | |  | |  | | Just to let you know, English toy spaniels (king charles spaniels) and Cavalier king charles spaniels are two different breeds of dogs.
Cavs are sweet and very gentle natured, smart too and generally make great all rounded pets BUT there is a downside, they are not the healthiest of breeds so you would really need to do your homework when finding the right breeder.
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Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M
Too Much Is- Never- Enough...I'm A- Giant! |
| | Barked: Fri Jul 3, '09 1:32am PST | | | | | | Ping.....these are absolutely marvelous dogs and a personal favorite. Amongst toys, they rank right along with Pugs in terms of being of very reasonable demand. They are marvelous lap dogs, appreciate walks, show just the right dose of sporting enthusiasm, train readily. They are very, VERY gentle and sweet, have a beautifully balanced temperament and really want to please. They are soft and sensitive and have some propensity towards shyness.....socialization and gentle handling matter....but they are not readily spoilable or cloyingly needful and not very issue-y. If you love your Pugs and could deal with a dog more sensitive and easily affected, you would connect with this breed quite nicely  | | | | |
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Princess Ping-Im- the boss
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Tia
Did you say- Ball? |
| | Barked: Fri Jul 3, '09 10:18pm PST | | | | | | A couple of years ago I was researching Cockers, but also had a look at the Cavalier and English Toy. I remember quite well reading a scientific doc at the time that stated that MVD was at the same prevalence rate in the ETs as in the Cavaliers.
More recently one of the researchers was on DogWorld UK talking about Chiari Like Malformation/Syringomyelia and mentioned that although English Toys do not all have CM (like Cavaliers do) they are noted for having SM in the breed as well. Not enough have been MRId to know the prevalence rate.
Other toy breeds that have a heightened risk of CM/SM are the Brussels Griffon and the Yorkshire Terrier, but the condition is also notably found in the Boston Terrier, Chihuahua, Pomeranian, French Bulldog and a few others I can't remember.
Many breeds are really not open to publicizing some of these problems and you have to dig to find out about them, so I thought I'd mention this little bit that I learned.
I didn't look very far into the personality of the English Toy, but understand they are not as overtly friendly as the Cavalier - can be a bit more shy and more tightly wound and are less of a fit for homes with smallish kids. They are incredibly loyal to their owner. | | | | |
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Princess Ping-Im- the boss
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| | Barked: Sat Jul 4, '09 3:34am PST | | | | | | Yeah, Tia that is kind of what I was thinking as i kept looking, they do have mvd. They also appear to have some hydrocephalus though perhaps not as prevalent as in chis. I think the SM is less prevalent then in cavs.
Honestly I like both breeds, I dont need a super outgoing dog who is good with kids. I basically want a lap dog that will want to cuddle and get on with other dogs and like to go on walsk and outings. IF we do rally o or agility together that will bre great but just for fun. If the dog could do therapy dog work also fantatsic since then I might be able to bring it to work with me sometimes. I think Ill just have to go with a really good breeder with other breeds. I found some cavalier breeders I trust already. Of course the good breeders admit that no matter what hte breed has health issues. | | | | |
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