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If you are wondering what is the right dog for you, this is the place to be. In this introductory forum we talk about topics such as breed vs. mix, size, age, grooming, breeders, shelters, rescues as well as requirements for exercise, space and care. No question is too silly here. This particular forum is for getting and giving helpful, nice advice. It is definitely not a forum for criticizing someone else's opinion, knowledge or advice. This forum is all about tail wagging and learning.
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Shadow
Scardy Cat |
 | | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 10:22am PST | |  | |  | | ok there are a few things i wasn't clear about and i think some are over reacting to.
Ginger Snap has elbow and hip clearances and i dont remember on eye or heart. If i remember correctly i believe they have done eyes on her in the past however they attempted breedings with her and she failed to take on 3-4 attempts so they were actually going to retire her and decided to try one last time and she got pregnant, that is this litter.
As far as screening homes i did spend about an hour on the phone with her where we both asked our respective questions, and shipping is a must for me because i live in a state where there are very few if not zero breeders in the area (new mexico) and traveling is pretty much out of the question. The Paypal thing is probly the safest way for me to pay as i wouldnt prefere to send a signed check to someone 6 states away and paypal does offer some security. I did ask her for the sires pedigree and she said she would either email it to me or she also thinks the breeder they obtained him from has his data on k9data and if she can locate it she'll just send me the link.
if anyone knows of any breeders with upcoming litters that they know are trustworthy and are willing to ship that would be great!
also i do have candid type photos of the litter and the dam, if i were making a website for a proffesional purpose such as theirs i wouldnt be putting candid photos of my house and grounds up either, so i dont see that as being a valid reason to not go with them |  |  | |  |
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B.J., CGC
We don't do- doodles!!
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 | | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 10:50am PST | | | | | | And you think she said heart??? That is way not good enough. A breeder with proper health clearances posts that information on their website or at least provides it in an email contact so potential buyers can confirm the testing before buying. And, I still can't imagine using a male with NO clearances. That is just plain not acceptable in a breed prone to the problems goldens can have. Furthermore, eyes should be done YEARLY whether the dog is currently being bred or not. I check any and all dogs yearly if they have ever had puppies up until they are about 10 years old. Problems such as PRA and some types of cataracts (yes, hereditary ones) will not show up until they are 6 or older. That is why there is a DNA test available for PRA. How safe would it be to continue breeding a son or daughter IF the parent developed PRA or cataracts at a later age. I want to know this stuff in my lines.
And, I would still want to know her purpose in breeding three or four litters a year if she is not doing anything with the dogs such as performance or show or field work. Sounds like she is just making more puppies that will look like their parents for the sole purpose of money. Yes, it is nice that some of the dogs from one previous litter are working service dogs, however most of those organizations do not buy puppies.... they accept donated ones only so was this a way to place unsold pups from her first litter?
Sorry to be so critical but you did ask for our opinion. Mine is not good about this breeder. You can do way, way better!!! | | | | |
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Chase, CGC
Beneth my goody- 2 shoes lies- dark socks |
| | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 1:09pm PST | | | | | | Have you contacted the Rio Grande Valley Golden Retriever Club, maybe they could help you find a local reputable breeder, or at least give some names of breeders who are closer.
Here is the link to their website
http://www.rgvgrc.org/ | | | | |
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Addy, CGC
Let's go for a- walk! |
| | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 3:39pm PST | | | | | | Golden Retriever puppy referral
WESTERN REGIONAL PUPPY REFERRAL
541-389-4642
Laurie Shrode
Bend, OR
Updated 10/15/2008
timberlinegold@clearwire.net
Rio Grande Valley Golden Retriever Club
Dianne Uzdawinis
(505) 856-6658
Updated 11/4/2005
duzdawinis@aol.com
Those should be helpful contacts for you.
Ginger Snap has elbow and hip clearances and i dont remember on eye or heart. If i remember correctly i believe they have done eyes on her in the past
Have they provided official, verifiable paperwork, or merely given assurances? "I think" is not good enough for the heart especially. And eyes should be done annually, not just on dogs that are currently being bred, but on every dog they have.
For a reputable breeder, this is just basic stuff.
As far as screening homes i did spend about an hour on the phone with her where we both asked our respective questions,
Did she ask for a vet reference? A personal reference? Has she checked them?
I spent a lot more than an hour talking to Addy's breeder before she approved me--and that was after I had spent a lot more than an hour each talking to four other breeders, all of whom were talking to each other, including Addy's breeder. (In fact it was multiple conversations with each of these people, and each conversation averaged more than an hour.)AND I had to provide the vet reference, which she did check.
and shipping is a must for me because i live in a state where there are very few if not zero breeders in the area (new mexico) and traveling is pretty much out of the question.
Most breeders will ship, to a carefully approved home, if there's a solid reason why traveling to pick up the puppy is a no go. What they do not do is advertise their willingess to ship. It is not a matter of indifference to them whether you pick up or have the puppy shipped. They don't ship to someone they've only talked to for something over an hour, without any other verification that they're not shipping to a real person, a responsible dog owner, and not a pet store or puppy broker or puppy miller or something worse.
The Paypal thing is probly the safest way for me to pay as i wouldnt prefere to send a signed check to someone 6 states away and paypal does offer some security.
I know PayPal is convenient, and it offers some security.
But having a PayPal merchant account costs money. It's not cost-effective for someone who is producing only a couple of litters a year at most. She says on her site: Email for a PayPal Payment Request and your reservation can be confirmed the same day.
That's not a sign of a responsible breeder. You don't have to be screened; you just have to be able to pay. That's it.
I did ask her for the sires pedigree and she said she would either email it to me or she also thinks the breeder they obtained him from has his data on k9data and if she can locate it she'll just send me the link.
If most of the dogs in the first two generations (i.e., the parents and grandparents of the puppy you're buying, NOT the parents and grandparents of the sire) are not champions, you're dealing with at best a backyard breeder.
A responsible breeder will work with a serious, responsible prospective buyer. The first few breeders I talked to didn't have the right dog for me. They referred me to other people, and asked their friends. They helped me connect to the right person with the right dog. The same when my sister was looking for a dog--she looked for responsible breeders, earned their confidence, and got referred to the right person with the right dog for her.
Please contact the Golden Retriever puppy referral contacts I gave you. Talk to those people. Talk to the people they refer you to, even if they don't have puppies available right now. You'll be happier in the long run with a dog whose parents were appropriately health-screened and temperament-screened, and whose breeder is there for you if you have questions or problems. | | | | |
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Megan
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| | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 4:48pm PST | | | | | | Hey guys
I have this dog , his heart works, and he has elbows and hips.. he has two eyes and four legs, so that is pretty great. If you want his puppies, email me an address and put some $$$ in my paypal..
Seriously, this is just about what this breeder sounds like. Ridiculous.
Have you actually been able to find any of her dogs in the OFA database? Or is this all stuff she is telling you? | | | | |
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CH- ChekrdFlags- Vegas GoGo- Girl
All Pyr! From- pasture to show- ring! |
| | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 6:05pm PST | | | | | | Check everything for yourself...Unethical breeders have a way of twisting words to make it look good...Like "hips checked"...This doesn't mean they were ofa'd or the dog passed!...Or "champion lines"...lol...The champion dogs could have been 5 generations back...This means nothing...I wouldn't cross the street to buy a dog from this breeder. | | | | |
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Dr. Watson
My infamous- teaching sofa!- :D
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| | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 8:31pm PST | | | | | | I just skimmed through, but you def. want the heart checked, too.
Good info from Addy and the others.
BTW, I have seen dogs dumped with service organizations for training. They failed, naturally. I dogsat probably the worst looking and unstable Golden I have ever seen when he was being raised for PAWS in Michigan. Just a mess, the poor thing. 
Contact the breed club. Really. | | | | |
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Lucky
Attention hog!
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| | Barked: Sun Jun 28, '09 8:47pm PST | | | | | | Shadow did you e-mail the rio grande club and not get a reply back?
I looked at their website and there wasn't much information, but many clubs liked to be contacted before giving out a breeder referral. I would try those two contacts that Addy listed and see what you hear back. To be honest I would be really surprised to find a state without a reputable GR breeder or someone knowledgeable in the breed. Doesn't mean you will find someone in your state that you actually want a dog from, but many breeders are willing to recommend other breeders.
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Shadow
Scardy Cat |
| | Barked: Fri Jul 3, '09 1:53pm PST | | | | | | well i took all of your advice and backed out from this breeder. i was wondering if any of you know of fireside retrievers?
their website is http://firesideretrievers.com/
both the dam and sire have all their checks (eyes elbows hips heart) and can be found using registration numbers on the OFA website.
one thing i find strange is that this litter only had 3 puppies over 3 months ago, and only 2 were purchased, from what i hear most reputable breeders have long waiting lists.
The puppy im talking to her about is teddy and is the first one pictured in their litter link | | | | |
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