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Dangerous and capable. Severe aggression help.

This is a place to gain some understanding of dog behavior and to assist people in training their dogs and dealing with common behavior problems, regardless of the method(s) used. This can cover the spectrum from non-aversive to traditional methods of dog training. There are many ways to train a dog. Please avoid aggressive responses, and counter ideas and opinions with which you don't agree with friendly and helpful advice. Please refrain from submitting posts that promote off-topic discussions. Keep in mind that you may be receiving advice from other dog owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a trainer or behaviorist!

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Bon Temps

Super hard robot- puma dog
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 7:37pm PST 
Excellent post, Farley - applause
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Bon Temps

Super hard robot- puma dog
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 7:41pm PST 
Stella, I have no problem with you having a different opinion - but, with some of the phrases you posted there is no "perception" involved. There are several very unpleasant things you have posted that are direct verbal assaults on another Dogster, none of which are compliant with Dogster standards, and certainly are not helpful to the OP.
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Zephyr

1213425
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 7:50pm PST 
Amen, Farley. This is for advice, not random tirades and personal attacks. If you want to be obnoxious there are plenty of places on the internet that allow it and all the "Us vs. Them" rhetoric is tired. Another board I read just blew up with a lot of nastiness over training methodology and a nice constructive and supportive place for all variety of trainers turned into another black hole of snide bitchery and unsolicited opinions. Get over yourselves, don't take a disagreement personally, give constructive advice and focus on your own dogs. Think of it as the golden rule of the dog internet.

Get thee to a veternary behaviorist, Atlas' owner. The internet is good for many things but advice on severe issues isn't one and I don't think anything new has been established since last week. There is a lot of good advice in the pages and I hope whomever you choose to can help you sort out what will work for your dog and your sensibilities.

*Rides off on a very tall horse*
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Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 8:01pm PST 
... yeah, again, OP needs an actual behaviorist, not a trainer. however locally lauded.
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Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 8:04pm PST 
there's sort of a difference. one is kinda accredited in real ways, the other is just a catch all, including whoever knows/ever owned a dog and wants to charge others for their 'expertise'.

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Stella- "Blue"

Puttin' my freak- on!
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 8:11pm PST 
And the person I recommended is THE behaviorist that was recommended by me by my vet to work with WHILE working with the behavioral specialist veterinarian I originally went to. Who happens to be local to the OP.
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Jackson Tan

Lad about town
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 8:14pm PST 
Eh, apparently there were words there for me too, but I missed them. Oh well.

Atlas' owner is going through a lot and really doesn't need this rubbish, that's all I'll say.

I'm one hundred percent with Farley. If this thread gets done in because of this, I will be very disappointed.

This is not a me vs. them argument and its not a thread for flying off the handle if someone doesn't happen to like your idol trainer. It's about helping the OP. Period. Let her pick and choose.

ENOUGH, already, this conflict does squat.

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Stella- "Blue"

Puttin' my freak- on!
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 8:15pm PST 
The vet, by the way, I used was Dr. Thoreau... I think that is the spelling. We worked together with some meds to help us get Blue to a state of mind where she COULD learn, because her issues were so intense, she was unable to learn with out some pharm help... but, working in conjunction with the vet and the meds AND behavior mod (like all the human behaviorists worth a salt will do). It's usually a multifaceted approach that works best in such extreme cases. Happy to report, that while it took a while, I was eventually able to wean her from the meds, which is a bonus, really thought it would be a life long crutch... and I would have kept on them if I felt she couldn't continue with out them, but since we did use intense behavior mods, it's almost like we rebuilt some synapses in the brain and got them functioning properly again. She's still a bit of a nut case, but now it's so much different. It's controlled drive and a work ethic instilled in the pooch rather than random acts of uncontrolled hyperactive neurologically impaired instinct.

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Squ'mey

too old to eat- any more KD
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 8:18pm PST 
As others have said, it is time to stop this petty bickering & get this once fine thread back on track. Stella Blue..you really seem to have a bug up your... Why? People can disagree. How many baths will it take before you stop being so antagonistic?shrug
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Barked: Wed Nov 21, '12 8:19pm PST 
Huh? I sure hope that Ms. Brown isn't representing herself as a behaviorist, since that's probably fraud.. did she tell you this/claim this?

I have no idea who this lady is but she doesn't show up in any accredited behaviorist association I've looked at, including http://www.dacvb.org/resources/find/

where did you find her listed?

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