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Barked: Tue Jul 24, '12 12:32pm PST


	I have a 3 yr old border collie and a 3 month old boxer pup, they're both very dominant, what can I do to stop this? I took a video of this, I really don't understand what's going on! http://youtu.be/K1PBFw7LFfI Help!!!!

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Barked: Tue Jul 24, '12 12:38pm PST


	also, is 3 yrs too old to train a border collie???

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Shiver Me- Timbers- "Charlie"

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Barked: Tue Jul 24, '12 1:10pm PST


	It looks to me like your Border is bullying the new puppy. I've seen this done with adult dogs when pups come into the home before and have even seen it with my own two. I put a stop to it immediately every single time. The puppy is probably annoying the Border with wanting to play and the Border is likely trying to show the pup who is boss and that he/she does NOT want to play with them. It could also be that play got carried away and the Border got too wound up. But I could be wrong, so wait for other people to chime in. I personally wouldn't allow it to happen though and would end it and break them up and keep them separate for a little bit after. As per your question about training a Border? It's NEVER too late to train ANY dog.

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Sanka

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Barked: Tue Jul 24, '12 2:17pm PST


	What an interesting video. My best guess is it has something to do with the pup being too pushy. But it seems like the border collies's correction is a bit over-kill.

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Missy

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Barked: Tue Jul 24, '12 3:42pm PST


	Yes, it appears that your Border Collie is correcting the pup for whatever reason, but is going OTT with the correction. That, or she is getting to hyped up in play that she "flips" from normal play to a more wound up state. For what it's worth, i don't think your young 3 month old pup is dominant at all, trying to defend herself if anything. Missy used to act the same way with dogs when she was younger, she'd pin them and not let them move without issuing corrections much like your Collie, although probably not so much snarkiness. I used to give her time outs, either by picking her up and/or popping her back on the lead for a few minutes. She doesn't have any dog friends anymore because she's now DA but when she plays with my sisters little dog we supervise play and i can also tell when she "flips" from normal play to getting more agitated and can now stop the behaviour escalating before she gets there. How have you been dealing with the behaviour so far? My advice would be to separate them when you see your Collie starting to get OTT with the pup. Does your Collie always act this way with the pup? Edited by author Tue Jul 24, '12 3:49pm PST

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Jackson Tan

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Barked: Tue Jul 24, '12 3:58pm PST


	I agree that the collie is bullying the puppy and as the boxer gets bigger I think it might have the potential to get quite nasty, especially as the boxer grows out of her puppy submissiveness. I would remove the collie at this point. She is way too OTT with corrections and for what it's worth, the noises she was making scared the crap out of MY dog ... he ran away from the sound when I played the video. Edited by author Tue Jul 24, '12 4:01pm PST

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Harmony

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Barked: Tue Jul 24, '12 11:09pm PST


	i had to break that up a few times, call your collie off and punish the pup whenever it happens. obviously it did something that is not ok in doggy world and needs to be corrected for it. but the collie is over correcting. let her see that the pup got in trouble and let her know that she just needs to alert when it happens and YOU the pack leader, will take care of it. and no, no dog is too old to learn something new.

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Toto, CD,- RN, CGC

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Barked: Wed Jul 25, '12 5:16am PST


	"Punish the puppy" for being a puppy??? Don't think so!!! Why in the world would you punish a puppy because an older dog is OTT??? Separate when it begins to become too much and supervise and that should be all that is necessary.

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MIKA&KAI

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Barked: Wed Jul 25, '12 5:32am PST


	Toto- Thank-you. I just want to add that having had a three year old dog,and a new puppy at the same time, I found it helpful to also do things with them separately myself,such as giving the older dog some extra attention and training while the puppy was sleeping,taking the puppy outside alone for potty breaks so there was no distraction from the older dog and keeping the older dog and puppy separated when the older one had enough.

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Harmony

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Barked: Wed Jul 25, '12 12:49pm PST


	social interaction between dogs is complex and hard to understand at its best, im not saying beat the pup. i firm "no" and a butt smack would do the trick. but whether us pet parents like it or not, we cant always understand who started the scuffle and why. ive had 3 puppies in a adult dog household and the pup that did not get in trouble when the adults corrected now has no social skills because he did not learn what is okay in doggy society. the other 2 are the best behaved dogs at the dog park and at home because they know what is okay and what is not okay in the doggy world. in terms of people, a few adults go into a preschool. what do you do when a kid kicks you in the shin? they get in trouble right? same concept. pup bites older dog too hard pup gets punished for being to rough. its social dynamics.

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