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Off Leash Dog

This is a place to gain some understanding of dog behavior and to assist people in training their dogs and dealing with common behavior problems, regardless of the method(s) used. This can cover the spectrum from non-aversive to traditional methods of dog training. There are many ways to train a dog. Please avoid aggressive responses, and counter ideas and opinions with which you don't agree with friendly and helpful advice. Please refrain from submitting posts that promote off-topic discussions. Keep in mind that you may be receiving advice from other dog owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a trainer or behaviorist!

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In Memory- of Callie

Just call me Her- Magesty
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 9:46am PST 
There is no doubt all dogs would love to be able to run free offleash but there are some dogs that cannot be offleash in unfenced places, I get it, I do. I have had terriers that would follow their noses down a hole under ground and I sit there for 3 hours listening to them work quarry while I sit there and call them and pray they come out without major wounds on them ,no amount of recall training fixes it either. I do love the sheer joy my dogs show when they are free such as this picture of Huck running for the shear joy of running in the snow this past winter up in our wilderness area.
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It does make your heart glad to see such happiness on your canine pals but you just have to take the responiblity and respect others who may be sharing that public trail or place with you that may not appreciate your dog being offleash.

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Duke

I'm Adopted!
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 9:51am PST 
Oh yes, many dogs do not like cameras at all! My sister's dog Echo hates them, the only time we get good photos of her is if she does not know we have it out and she is playing with the other dogs or resting.laugh out loud
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Missy

Miss- Pig!
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 10:17am PST 
If i believed every stereotype there is about Lurchers & Terriers neither of mine would have had the chance to prove themselves off lead and have that freedom. Each dog is an individual.
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y

dog-sitter in- charge.
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 10:20am PST 
I really don't care if a person wants to have their dogs off leash or whatever, as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else, especially if there's a leash rule (and even if there isn't your dog shouldn't interfere with others/others' dogs).

If you decide to let your dog off leash, that's cool, just accept anything that might happen - including getting yelled at if off leash in a on-leash area. And if your dog does interfere with others' dogs or people, then accept that something might happen to them and take responsibility for it. Simple and common sense. shrug
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Augusta,- CGC, RN

Such a Good Dog!
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 11:13am PST 
Not saying that dogs don't relish having opportunities off leash,

but I gotta mention I think it's a bit unfair to cite two small samplings of any dog's profile pics to prove anything about off/on leash happiness or unhappiness . . . . You could just as easily say it proves indoor--outdoor happiness (note Morrison laying off leash "forlornly, perhaps?" by the door).

It's a bit awkward to photograph your own dog while walking at your side--so even if there are lots of happy dog walking on leash times, it's not a photo most people tend to take. (though I do have video . . .)

Morrison is a beagle mix and (even without knowing these were early pics) boy, hounds are notorious boo-boo face makers, I mean you could assume Gus was the most forlorn dog in the world from some of the faces she pulls and really the first pic that got my attention on Petfinder was a less common posed "smiling" shot.

A lot has to do with the situation and perspective of the photo taker and even the dog's awareness of and reaction to the photographer. Unless I'm catching her in the middle of playing, Gus tends to look serious and she's anything but, she's very much a clown . . . .

If you look at Gus's profile, there are plenty of "serious" faces of her outside off leash and happy faces where she's in full stride caught running and forlorn faces, like "really I'm so weary of this photo session . . . .sigh" . . .laugh out loud

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In Memory- of Callie

Just call me Her- Magesty
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 12:27pm PST 
I have pictures of myself hiking with the dogs leashed, my dogs are happy and content. Its all about how you deal with them being onleash. If you think its a real drag that they have to be onleash then they are not going to be happy but if you are upbeat and having a good time then so are they. I dont buy that dogs are not happy on leash because I know for a fact mine are. Sure they like to be offleash, what dog doesn't? But its not the end of their really good time if they have to stay onleash.
My dogs and I have covered many miles hiking all over California and it does not matter if they are onleash or offleash, we are having a great time.
And here ya go, out hiking in onleash area and my dogs are out having a great time and so am Ismile
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Trigger

*Blackdog*
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 12:36pm PST 
Callie - to repeat - no one here has said anything about dogs on leash being unequivocally unhappy.

Only that the vast majority of dogs do seem *happiest* when off leash.

Just because a dog isn't at his or her *happiest* doesn't mean that automatically qualifies them as miserable and suffering from some cruel treatment or injustice.


There are plenty of levels of angst and saddness, plenty of levels of contentment, and plenty of levels of all out joy. On leash most dogs fall somewhere in the content/compliant (again not all, speaking generally here but that doesn't mean some dogs don't LOATHE the leash or find happiness on one) but off leash most dogs fall somewhere much higher up that chain and into the actual joy realm.

Again, this is such obvious fact, I'm not sure how or why anyone would even try to argue itshrug
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"Selli"

The Muddy- Princess
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 1:48pm PST 
I believe that everyone here who is on the "I walk my dog/dogs off leash" side are willing to accept the responsibility for that decision. We all know that technically we are breaking the law and there are consequences for that if a law enforcement officer decided to ticket us. I don't think anyone here has stated ANYTHING differently. We also know that there is a risk that something might happen to our dogs. However, the same things can happen to a dog even if they are leashed. Most dogs can break away from their handler while on leash if they really want to and chase that rabbit or deer across the street. It is just as easy for leashed dogs to fight as it is for unleashed dog, sometimes easier since many dogs are leash reactive. And leashed dogs are just as likely to go for a but sniff of an unfriendly dog as unleashed dogs are. Leashed dogs are more likely to get testy with other humans since their escape route is removed and their human's tension can be carried down the leash.

Furthermore, I have spent literally thousands of hours training my dogs how to behave off leash, I know what they will do in a given situation. I should not be blamed because someone else does not have their dog under control anymore than someone who has a well-trained on leash dog should be blamed if an out of control, but on leash dog attacks another dog. Note: my dogs do not approach another dog unless I give them permission.

What I think other people are getting testy about is the idea that another dog owner is going to get nasty with them about just having their dog off leash, even if their dog is minding their own business and not interfering with anything. When I walk at parks I see all sorts of thing going on that are legally questionable like people without any clothes on enjoying the sun, people jumping into the river from the railroad trestle, people smoking pot or drinking, people biking or sledding in a park where it is prohibited. There are a few parks that are known for prostitution hook ups. Heck, if they really wanted to get rid of the prostitution they should allow off-leash dogs, in fact dogs are allowed off leash in New York City parks before like 9 am and after 6 pm or something just to keep the crime rate down. I don't feel the need to inform people that what they are doing is against the law, I assume they know that fact. If they are not bothering me, I won't bother them.

I personally don't need the aggravation it would cause me to give someone else a hard time if what they are doing is not interfering with my day.
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Morrison

Hello, I Love- You
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 2:03pm PST 
Well I updated Morrisons pictures showing his serious "woe" about being tied to the run in the backyard. He also looks oh so unhappy
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Missy

Miss- Pig!
 
 
Barked: Thu May 31, '12 2:31pm PST 
I dont buy that dogs are not happy on leash because I know for a fact mine are

I think it depends largely on what the dog is used to. I very rarely do road walks with my two, but Ty gets incredibly bored when on lead and even starts whining if i stop. He lives for his freedom.
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