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Am I weird for not spanking my dog?

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MIKA&KAI

Akita Pals- Always.
 
 
Barked: Thu May 3, '12 8:29am PST 
I think you are doing the right thing and your co-workers are accomplishing nothing but possibly teaching their pups to fear hands.frown
Keep using the methods that are working for you and forget about the spanking. As others have said,dogs are not children.
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Mulder

Spooky Mulder
 
 
Barked: Thu May 3, '12 8:40am PST 
As a person who has and does use corrections in training- I would absolutely never hit a dog.

Because, lets be honest, there really isn't a GOOD way to do it. If you are to the point of striking an animal (no need to be polite and call it a "spanking"... you are striking them) you are also probably angry, frustrated, and not thinking clearly enough to make the punishment effective.

Personally, positive punishment should be as precise and emotionless as possible. Emotions tend to cloud our view of what we are doing. Not to mention, I do not want my dog to stop what he's doing because he thinks I'm mad at him- I want him to stop because he thinks the behavior is incorrect.

Furthermore, physically laying your hand on an animal aggressively, as with a strike, is dangerous on many levels. At best you are teaching your dog to mistrust you and your hand, and damaging your relationship with the dog. At worst, the dog could possibly turn around and take your hand off for it.

There is no reason to ever strike a dog.
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ARCHMX Asher RL1X RL2X RL3X RL

we will dance in- the ring without- words
 
 
Barked: Thu May 3, '12 8:44am PST 
You are not weird. I don't spank. I try to avoid saying no.

I Do use punishment, just not positive punishment.

Check out the books suggested by a pp.

And operant conditioning does not preclude the use of punishment, in factm two of the four quads of operant conditioning ARE punishment.
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Lucille

I am the Sock- Bandit!!!
 
 
Barked: Thu May 3, '12 8:46am PST 
Dogs cannot understand consequences the same way human children do, as has been pointed out. Studies have shown that unless you interrupt a dog's behavior the second they're doing it, they cannot make the connection between what they did and the punishment/correction. THat's why rubbing a dog's face in their mess, is absolutely ineffective in housetraining. The pup just thinks the person is randomly rubbing their face in excrement. So spanking accomplishes nothing, except causing the dog to mistrust you because you don't make sense, and possibly even fear you.

I've handled for pro kennels and puppy raised for breeders, 35 years with dogs and never have I spanked a dog. I'll give corrections when needed, but not by hitting or otherwise hurting them. It's so much more effective to teach your dog what you want it to do, rather than punishing what you don't want it to do. It builds a more trusting, stable bond as well. Don't listen to your coworkers, trust your gut and do what feels right for you and your dog. You probably have a more stable dog that needs far less corrections than theirs do.

My dog also learns quite a bit conversationally, phrases put together from some cues she knows and she figures out the rest. One day I asked her to 'go get papa'. I didn't really think much would happen because none of that phrase was officially 'trained', but she took off. I hear a bunch of barking and a few seconds later SO rounds the corner "What the heck is wrong with Lu? She's barking at me like mad, walking to me, staring, barking. agh is she sick?!" Well, I asked and she delivered. pronto and pleased as punch. To this day it's one of her most useful cues BOL!
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Kodiak

The cheese ninja
 
 
Barked: Thu May 3, '12 10:09am PST 
I don't mean to say that multi word commands have no place- if you've specifically taught them, or you're just curious whether the dog will go get his bear or whatever, sure. But, in high-intensity situations, my preference is definitely clear and simple.
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Toto, CD,- RN, CGC

We don't do- doodles!!!
 
 
Barked: Thu May 3, '12 11:59am PST 
I think what Kodiak meant was giving THREE DIFFERENT commands in the one sentence, the first being GO, second being SIT and third being DOWN. This also happens to be a pet peeve of mine.
People, even in my class, may say SIT, once time, SIT DOWN, another time and the third time they will say SIT SPOT. Now, poor Spot has to figure out what they really mean each time.
We all know that dogs can and do understand simple short sentence commands, especially when the last word always carries the actual action desired. It becomes an issue for the dog when the handler keeps varying the word OR adding or subtracting words from it. But, to say SIT DOWN leaves the dog wondering if it's supposed to sit or down.
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Baylee

My Baylee- forever <3
 
 
Barked: Thu May 3, '12 1:36pm PST 
There is no reason to spank a dog or a child. No relationship should be based on fear. frown Don't listen to your co-workers and continue the positive relationship that you've already established.
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(retired)min- ister misty

be calm, dont- worry!
 
 
Barked: Fri May 4, '12 12:43am PST 
spanking?
why would i spank my dogs?
i train my dogs and if they were naughty i would punish them by sending them to their spot,dogbed or anything that was their place.
and they felt that i was mad ,so that was bad enough for them.
spanking is the worse action to do...and it's worthless...
dogs can get fearfull or worse bite you....
a good owner knows better options than spanking...
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Jax (earned- her wings- 5/30/12)

Give me your- toy.
 
 
Barked: Fri May 4, '12 5:30am PST 
I don't spank my dogs either. Honey gets more results than vinegar.
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Wyatt

RATS, give me- RATS!
 
 
Barked: Fri May 4, '12 7:25am PST 
I feel there is never a reason to hit a dog, ever. All it does is create a fear based reaction and it causes the dog to learn to be sneaky. My dogs, even Wyatt the high drive JRT, respond well to tone of my voice and time outs just fine.
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