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This is a place to gain some understanding of dog behavior and to assist people in training their dogs and dealing with common behavior problems, regardless of the method(s) used. This can cover the spectrum from non-aversive to traditional methods of dog training. There are many ways to train a dog. Please avoid aggressive responses, and counter ideas and opinions with which you don't agree with friendly and helpful advice. Please refrain from submitting posts that promote off-topic discussions. Keep in mind that you may be receiving advice from other dog owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a trainer or behaviorist!
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Reboot, SDIT
 Squeaky? Where's- the squeaky? | 
| Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 12:55am PST | |  |  |  |  | So, I've been trying to do some task training with Boo lately, and this bizarre issue she has is making it really difficult. I know Border Collies are quirky dogs, but this is just... strange.
If I try to teach her anything when we're in the living room, she freaks out. She wants no part of it. She jumps on the couch and lays down. I tell her off, she gets down and dives under the recliner footrest. I tell her to come, she gets out from under the recliner and jumps on the other couch again. And back and forth and back and forth.
However, if I take her outside and do it on the patio, she's great. She's perfect and wonderful and focused.
I didn't worry about it during the summer, but this is going to make training during the winter awfully hard. Does ANYONE else's dog do this? It is really frustrating me, since I have to take her into the kitchen now to do it, and she isn't impressed with that, either, but it's easier than trying to get her to stay still in the living room.
The weird part is that once I get a command down, she'll do it fine. If she's walking INTO the living room and I say 'sit' she'll stop in her tracks and plop her butt down, but if I try to get her to come sit in front of me and do a command while in there, she jumps on the couch or under the recliner thing. |  |  |  |  |
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Reboot, SDIT
 Squeaky? Where's- the squeaky? | 
| Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 4:14am PST | |  |  |  |  | Aww, thanks for voting!
She's usually great in there though, that's the thing. Unless I try to get her to DO something when we're in the living room, she's fine. It's just when I try to get her to do something or do training she freaks out. That's why I'm so confused! |  |  |  |  |
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Jackson
 Christmas Eve- Baby
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| Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 6:02am PST | |  |  |  |  | Goofy question, but do you have hardwood floors that might be surfacing a tactile reaction? You are right, Border Collies can act pretty odd at times. We have hardwood floors, a large area room rug and several smaller rugs. On the occasions when we have to roll the large area room rug up to clean underneath, he enters & exits the room by using the furniture -- and we have a similar odd behavior when fall/winter comes and the concrete floor in the garage gets cold. Unfortunately, most answers to Border Collie questions end with "because he's a Border Collie". |  |  |  |  |
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Reboot, SDIT
 Squeaky? Where's- the squeaky? | 
| Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 8:09am PST | |  |  |  |  | Strangely, the kitchen and dining room where she'll work fine are hardwood, but there's an area rug in the living room where she freaks out. I don't think that's it... I agree, though. "Because she's a Border Collie" seems to be the best answer here! |  |  |  |  |
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Chandler
 Code name:- Farmcollie | 
| Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 8:32am PST | |  |  |  |  | My first thought would be to break it down.
What is the trigger?
Is she comfortable in the room at other times?
How much time do you spend in the room?
What is she comfortable doing in the room?
Hang out? Eat? Play? Just pass through it?
What signals "training" vs other activities?
Treat bag? Clicker? Working vest?
What kind of training are you doing?
Unfortunately, because she's a border collie probably is the answer.
Herding breeds can be very sensitive, one scary stimulus accidentally paired with training can start a phobia.
Chan mysteriously became afraid of one house on our walking route when he was two, despite the fact that an aussie he liked lived there. It took months to convince him the boogyman didn't live there too. |  |  |  |  |
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Jackson
 Christmas Eve- Baby
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| Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 9:17am PST | |  |  |  |  | I agree with Chandler that you'll need to take a step back and consider everything & anything that might have happened in the room, might be part of the room, etc. Using a short leash will teach a dog what you don't want (such as getting on furniture, etc.) by not allowing it to happen in the 1st place & become habit, but I think using it here, in Reboot's case, is flooding. I know that Jackson would put his own spin on this; he'd go from not working in the room or freaking out to not wanting to go into the room at all.
Reboot is nine months, Jackson is 11 years old. You're going to be going a lot! |  |  |  |  |
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Reboot, SDIT
 Squeaky? Where's- the squeaky? | 
| Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 9:31am PST | |  |  |  |  | I leashed her and she just decided that throwing herself on the floor and rolling around was a better option than doing anything I wanted. Sigh!
She's totally comfortable in the room at any other time. She'll play, sleep, eat, whatever in here until I grab the clicker and treats and stand up in the middle of the room to try to get her to do something. I try to make it a game, but the second she figures out that hey! this isn't playtime! she stops.
We spend a LOT of time in here so I'm not sure why it is training in here that offends her (I'm trying to teach her to turn the lights on and off currently.) Maybe it's because I never trained her in here before and this has always been the "play" room? I dunno. She just wants no part of it. I've never yelled at her or anything, it's always been really upbeat positive clicker training and she's a very soft dog, so I make sure not to raise my voice or anything, so I'm not sure what could've scared her.
(She does make me go a lot. Like yesterday morning, when she opened the back door to my house, which has a round knob and not one that a dog can easily open, and came trotting in like it was nothing.) |  |  |  |  |
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