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Training issues unique to small dogs

  
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ARCHX Asher,- RL1X, RL2X,- RL3

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 3:55pm PST
I am planning on giving a small dogs class, so I am looking for issues that tend to be specific to small dogs or training small dogs.

For example, small dogs tend to be a bit harder to potty train for several reasons (small bladders, we don't always see them squat because they are already low to the ground).

I find it is a bit harder to lure small dogs into a down (they are already so low to the ground that lures and targets don't always work).

Small dog owners need to do a LOT of bending, which can either become part of the cue or a signal for the early termination of a behavior.

So what training issues do other small dog owners tend to have?

BTW, if I have a solution for your issue, I can PM it to you!
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Mr. Kite- "Sumo"

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 4:10pm PST
as soon as i saw the title, i thought about luring the down.
i had no luck with luring sumo's down, i had to resort
to capturing it.

another thing is when teaching loose leash walking to sumo,
i found myself stopping to treat (because it was hard to treat while walking with him so far down)- eventually when i clicked,
he would stop and wait for the treat instead of keep walking,
i didn't want him to think that just because i recognized the eye
contact that meant we stopped walking. we fixed that- but i think
it'd be good to help people find a way to avoid stopping or slowing down while rewarding.

if i think of anything else, i'll update smile

p.s. that's a great idea to have a class focusing on small dogs! are you going to do one for large dogs as well?

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Chim Chim

I luff to luff.
 
 
Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 4:43pm PST
Attention span. Chim can only work well for about 7 minutes at most per session. Otherwise he loses interest and can't concentrate...which leads to him getting frustrated.

Also, if I don't stay consistent 100% of the time, he regresses quickly. Even if I just miss one time, we take 5 steps back. He's smart, he just has better things to do.blue dog
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Princess

Let me approach- thee!
 
 
Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 4:44pm PST
I actually find pullling to be an issue believe or not. Since Princess weighs so little, I dont correct her on her pulling. I know I should but I am not quite sure how. Making Bunny walk by me until he didnt pull worked for him but its somehow harder to make her do that.thinking
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Mr. Kite- "Sumo"

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 4:50pm PST
oh and small dog syndrome!
make sure to tell the owners that just because their
dogs are small does not mean they can get away with things
like pulling (princess reminded me of this)
there was a lady in my class who said "well she isn't dragging me down
the street, why shouldnt i let her pull if she wants to?"

and things like not being allowed on EVERYONES lap,
jumping up on visitors, begging for food, etc.

just because they cannot do as much damage while doing the same
things as a big dog who thinks he is small... does not mean small dogs should not have manners when other people are around.

when sumo would jump on someone and i would ask him to sit they would say "oh no, its fine..." but i bet if i had a great dane who was jumping on them, they'd want him OFF.
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Princess

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 4:52pm PST
Double postred face

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Sasha

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 4:58pm PST
I didnt have issues with Sasha's down at all & she is great on a leash & without training. Shes weird haha. Lets see I do agree majorly with the potty training thing, Gizmo is sooo small that I have difficulties with the potty training.
Definatly small dog sydrome, people let them get away with way to much just because they are small.
Small dog class is a great idea Good Luck!
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Addy, CGC

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 5:02pm PST
Jumping.

It's obviously a greater risk when big dogs do it, but most people don't undermine you when you tell them you're teaching your 80-pound dog not to jump. With small dogs, they do it all the time, right up until your small dog gets muddy paws on their light-colored clothing.

Also, I think friendly small dogs have a greater temptation to jump, because they want to get where they can see you and interact better. Keeping all four paws on the ground is distancing when they want to get close.

What I've done with Addy is teach her the Dance command. It lets her get up on her hind legs, get as "close" as she can when greeting a new person--but with her front paws not touching them or their clothing. Her desires are being satisfied, and people thing it's cute. But while that's a great solution for a Crested or other similarly built breeds, for dachshunds and other long-backed breeds, it could be a Really. Bad. Idea.
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ARCHX Asher,- RL1X, RL2X,- RL3

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 5:02pm PST
Thanks for the quick response guys!! blue dog

Some of these I have already noted. Sumo, I totally get the whole click/bend/treat thing and have a couple of solutions. One great one came to me via Cody.

Large dog owners don't get it because reinforcement placement and delivery is so easy for them (bol). Trainin LLW with the dog on a picnic table can help with this (of course, you have to teach the dog to want to be on the picnic table first). Another way to avoid it is to use a long wooden spoon smeared with something like peanut butter that you can deliver in a timely and well placed manner.

And I have seen plenty of small dogs with either fear issues or Napoleon complexes.

Princess, pulling is a training issue. I think the problem is that we small dog owners often just don't address it because there is a difference in danger between big and small dog pulling. Of course, try walking 6 small dogs and you get the same effect as walking 1 big dog.

Chim, reinforcement value can help, as can working with a hungry dog, but we have to know our dogs limits too.

Addy, jumping is on the list, another thing we small dog owners tend to allow that we shouldn't. Heck, that one is a perfect example of the cobblers kids having no shoes! I could fix it if I wanted to, I just have more fun working on retrieves and leg weaves (red face). And everyone that comes to my house encourages the jumping wink

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Tallulah

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 5:19pm PST
I know my problem is that Tallulah doesn't like food, she is not at all food motivated. I am on a poodle forum and it seems like many are fussy eaters.

TBH she doesn't know a darn thing, where my other dogs all know sit down wait etc. I did a puppy class with her too like I do all my dogs, and it was an epic fail. The only thing she will do is walk on her hind legs..if she wants to.

If I could use a dryer sheet or dirty underwear as a training reward I might make progress.. red face
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