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This is a place to gain some understanding of dog behavior and to assist people in training their dogs and dealing with common behavior problems, regardless of the method(s) used. This can cover the spectrum from non-aversive to traditional methods of dog training. There are many ways to train a dog. Please avoid aggressive responses, and counter ideas and opinions with which you don't agree with friendly and helpful advice. Please refrain from submitting posts that promote off-topic discussions. Keep in mind that you may be receiving advice from other dog owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a trainer or behaviorist!
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Bandit
Life is GOOD:) |
 | | Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 8:10am PST | |  | |  | | Well this weekend was terrible. The family was getting ready to go out to the desert and have a great day. The kids were in there car seats, hubby was checking everything over one last time (oil, water, car things) and I was walking from the house to put the cooler in our SUV. The back window was rolled down so I could put the cooler in and the dogs were in the back. Well, I walk outside and I hear a kid screaming (about 16 yrs old). My hubby yells its Bandit. I drop the cooler run out to the street and Bandit is chasing the kid full speed, hackles raised, snapping, and just in a zone. The kid is running and zig zagging, and jumping, moving his hands out of Bandit's reach. I started running after Bandit yelling at the top of my lungs Bandit no, no, come, stop. Bandit ran three houses up from our house before he stopped chasing the kid. The kid lives right in that next house and made it into the house ok. Bandit stopped chasing him and came running back to me. The entire thing seemed like 2 hours and 10 miles long. It was only about 45 seconds and up four houses. Bandit wouldn't listen for anything to stop chasing that kid. I have never seen him act like that before. He got back to the house and jumped in the back of the SUV. After I made sure he couldn't get out I ran up to the neighbors house and made sure the kid was ok. He didn't get bit or hurt any but if he wasn't so fast he would have probably been bit 3 or more times it looked like from where I was running. It was so terrible. The first thing my hubby says when I get back is we need to show him his new "bed in the desert" which means since we are already going out hunting....I hope you can understand. I can't believe that he jumped out of the back window and chased that kid and all the kid was doing is walking down the street. I can't even imagine what would have happened if it were an older person or smaller child. 
I need help with how to fix this. I know that he likes to chase things, he always has. I never let him out front with out a rope tired to him. He has gotten so much better at not wanting to run after bicycles, scateboards, trucks, cars, jeeps, all of that has been a lot of work. He is great with out chickens and ducks, never even onces tried anything when they were small chicks and ducklings. He is good with dogs when he is introduced to them, big or small. I don't know what to do or why he did this. He just didn't listen to stop and was in such a zone.
I know the things he is scared of. He is scared of most men and really loud noises. Not thunderstorms but noises like gun shots, lound music, fireworks, yelling, things like that. He has always been nervous around men even when were first adopted him.
Anyone with some advise for me I would really appreciate it.
A little bit more of background: I have been doing the NILIF training with him for a couple of months now to try and help with his confidence. Also he turns two this November so I don't know if this is part of him growing up.Edited by author Wed Nov 4, '09 8:28am PST
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Kahuna
Only my cover is- scary. Read my- book. |
 | | Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 10:04am PST | | | | | | Whew that was close! Glad the kid had mad track team running skills. Honestly this is a problem that can be managed. Seems it was a trigger for him, kid walking by what he might have percieved as his territory (driveway walk). Plenty of dogs might have done the same. If it happened here, next time I'd keep the window up. Oh and put the dogs in last  | | | | |
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Titus
Caveo, canis- vigilo omnis |
| | Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 10:21am PST | | | | | | Sorry you experienced this. Are you sure the kid was walking by? It may sound like splitting hairs, but it could mean something entirely different if he was running or jogging. Or he may not have started running until Bandit started toward him. I in no way mean to put responsibility on the kid - just that it might make a difference in how you handle the problem. Like Kahuna said, you can manage it, but if you consult a behaviorist for help to stop the behavior, knowing the trigger is immensely helpful. | | | | |
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 11:27am PST | | | | | | Well, I'm sure the kid running definitely enticed the dog to chase, but that's not the kid's fault, but that's how dogs are wired, whether they're play chasing or "kill" chasing . . . Yeah, obviously now you know an open car window is easy to jump out of which means essentially your dog was loose . . .
Do you think if the kid hadn't moved he would have bitten him anyway? Dogs are pretty fast in spite of the kid's moves, he may not have intended to put teeth to flesh . . . | | | | |
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Titus
Caveo, canis- vigilo omnis |
| | Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 11:35am PST | | | | | | My guess (and it really is a guess) is that what may have started out as territorial aggression morphed into prey drive when the boy started running, and escalated when he started yelling. I'm glad for everyone's sake that Bandit didn't bite him. | | | | |
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Bandit
Life is GOOD:) |
| | Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 11:37am PST | | | | | | I know an open window is an easy escape and for sure Bandit was loose...it just all happened so fast. Terrible. I sound like a broken record...everyone always says they never thought there dog would bite or anything and left a stupid opportunity open for there dog to do so. 
I don't know if he would have bit him. If anything he probably would have ran up to him barking. | | | | |
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Bandit
Life is GOOD:) |
| | Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 11:41am PST | | | | | | It is just so weird to me that our chickens, ducks, small cats, even little dogs now he is great with. No prey drive there at all. The birds all make crazy little noises that can drive Sativa nuts and she gets all excited like she thinks its hunting time.
But something to size of a person screaming can get such a reaction. | | | | |
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