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Best no pull harness?

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Bunny

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Barked: Tue Aug 18, '09 6:21pm PST 
A no pull harness was suggested to me for Bunny's cat/skunk/dog across street pulling. I checked in all our stores and the only one they had was lupine ( I think?) but it looked pretty flimsy. I dont like the looks of the haltis, I am afraid it would do some damage to his jaw or something. Since there dont seem to be any no pull harnesses around here , I guess I will have to order one off the net, any suggestions as to best one?
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Raven

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Barked: Tue Aug 18, '09 7:15pm PST 
I like Sporn. Wal-mart also sells a generic "anti-pull" harness that actually works really well.
Gir

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Barked: Tue Aug 18, '09 7:21pm PST 
I use a Halti all the time, no jaw damage. I've used them since I was 11 and I admit I'm a huge fan.

When I have Gir on one, I almost never even have to touch the leash. Most of the dogs I've trained with one have caught on from day one and been much easier to walk. BUT, it's a personal choice and what works for me may not be what works for you.

On some dogs, I get just a regular harness and put the leash on the front ring. Not very descriptive, but if I had a picture you'd know what I'm talking about.
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Moira

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Barked: Tue Aug 18, '09 7:49pm PST 
Moira does well with her Easy Walk Harness. Some posters have indicated they like the Sensation line better, but this was available locally and on clearance - my kind of deal! Does it stop her from lunging with her new dog reactivity? No, but it allows me to control her without hurting her.

I would never use a head collar on a dog who may lunge (Sasha & Moira). There have been autopsies done on dogs who used them and their necks were damaged. If you do want a head collar, my previous dogs said the Gentle Leader was better than the Halti.

The WalMart and the Sporn Anti Pull did nothing for Sasha and Moira. The urge to pull overrode any pain the straps caused on the underarm area. Anything that you hook in the back just gives them permission to pull if they are so inclined. Mia never did, nor has Lily. Kylee - about a block on a Gentle Leader, then switched to a martingale and she was good to go.

BTW, the German Shorthair who attacked Moira was out tonight slamming himself at her so hard that he was choking repeatedly, but his collar held. Moira handled it well. Needless to say she got a piece of bacon. Good girl, Moira Mae!
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Juno CGC

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Barked: Tue Aug 18, '09 9:27pm PST 
I've had major success with the Easy Walk harness. Juno was a choker and a gagger and the bigger she gets, the closer she would have been to dragging me down the street lol. I put the Easy Walk on her and had instant results. Most of the time she walks right by my side but even if she does wander to the end of the leash, there's no TUGGING so there's no problem controlling her. It's much easier to handle her if she gets too excited as well. It's pretty readily available, I've seen it in every pet store and they even sell it at Target, so who knows where else you might be able to find it.
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Bianca CGC- TT HIC Thd- ♥

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Barked: Tue Aug 18, '09 10:14pm PST 
I really like the Sensation harness. That is what I used for Bianca for pulling, she is very strong and it helped me to be able to control her pulling.... Now she does not pull very often anymore but I am using a Halti with her now while I work on her issues around other dogs on leash.

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Bunny

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Barked: Wed Aug 19, '09 4:14am PST 
Bunny is a lunger alright! I am still stumped between easy walk and sensation bol. I hate making decsions arrggg! They both seem really good and are around the same price . They both have his size. How am I supposed to choose? BTW I live in a small city in Canada, so either one is not readily available, even at walmart bol.

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Becky RNCL

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Barked: Wed Aug 19, '09 8:04am PST 
Moira, can you provide sources for the autopsy results showing neck damage on dogs who used halters? I have yet to see definitive research although it does seem possible. Thanks.
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Moira

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Barked: Wed Aug 19, '09 10:06am PST 
Becky, I just tried to find it. I found the German study, but it only involved choke collars and prong collars. All dogs using these showed damage in their autopsies with chokes being worse than prongs.

As far as the head collars, I found numerous articles that indicated not to use them because of the possibility of damage if the dog hits the end of the leash, but no definitive study. There were several mentions of the physological damage head collars cause, too.

I know I can't use one because Moira is a lunger - only very occasionally - but it only takes one time.
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Opie CGC

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Barked: Wed Aug 19, '09 10:30am PST 
We used the gentle leade head halter with great success. It's no substitute for training but it let me get Opie exercise. Can any one point to an actual case of a dog injuring themselves? I've heard lots of could but no has ever cited a specific case of it happening. Opie didn't really hard lunge on it because he seemed to figure out real fast not to pull with it on. It was no help with training because he just learned not to pull with the harness on, but it was useful bandaid measure until we made progress with the training. I'm thrilled to say I haven't had to use it in while. I've tried two different halters and a martindale collar - the head halter was the only thing that effected his pulling and that andthe choke chain seems to be the only this he can't crawfish out of.
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