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Dog poops in baby's room! What do we do?

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Kodi Pie - CGC ESA

Why sit when you- could lie down?
 
 
Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 9:10am PST 
I have previously posted a similar question on other dog forums and most people responding with "Try NILIF". They have been trying to following the suggestions from the NILIF web page but still have a few more questions.

Here is the background.

My sister has a 1yr old son, is pregnant again (due in 2/09) and has a chi/jrt mix named Rufus.

Rufus has always been a bit of a jerk when he doesn’t get his way, but since Oscar was born and especially since he has become mobile (crawling and now walking) Rufus is being a brat.

When he is mad at my sister, he will pee on her stuff.
When he is mad at my BIL, he will pee on his stuff.
When he is mad that the baby is getting too much attention, he will poop in Oscar's room.
For random reasons (we don’t know why), he will pee on plastic bags in the kitchen.

These are not always sneaky bowel attacks. He will walk up and pee on something right in front of you. You cannot startle him into stopping the flow, nor will picking him up stop him either. He has access to the backyard at all times via an open door or the doggie door. The pooping in the house is a new behavior, and only in the last month.

Rufus will also growl and/or snap at Oscar when Oscar is trying to play with him, but not all of the time. Rufus will bring a toy over to Oscar to play with, or try and snuggle with Oscar… but will randomly not want to play anymore and growl. My sister tries her best to keep Oscar from hurting Rufus, and does not scold Rufus when Oscar is the instigator. The baby and the dog are never left alone together. But a baby can pull a dog's tail or go from patting to fur pulling in the second it takes you to sneeze.

My BIL takes him for walks everyday and plays with him. He gets at least 70% of the attention he was getting before. He has been given a clean bill of health by the vet. New baby, new job, new dog... all of these things can alter the amount of attention a dog receives. Unfort, there is only so much time in a day. They are trying to do whatever they can to correct these behaviors. They don’t want to make Rufus an “outside dog” but they also can’t have him peeing and pooping in only the baby’s stuff. They are afraid it will get worse when the second baby arrives if they cant get a handle on it now.

We need real advice on how to change specific behaviors, specifically the pooping in the baby’s bedroom... The other forums I have posted on only give guilt trips and say “poor neglected Rufus” and don’t give any helpful advice.
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Sassy

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Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 10:12am PST 
Never had this problem, hope you get better advice here.

My two cents. Having a door open isn't enough. Do more house training. Go out with the dog every couple of hours and watch him do his business. Any time a household is changed up house training might need to be retrained. A new baby, baby crawling, a visitor to the house, rearranging the furniture - tiny seeming changes can be huge to a dog. Since the dog doesn't wear a diaper take the dog out before taking care of the baby's mess! Take the dog out before baby's lunch or nap.

Keep the baby's door closed. Why should the dog be in there in the first place?

Maxwell had seizures a couple times when he didn't get the exercise he needed when under too much stress - a household person gone too much was all! Take the dog out for walks a couple times a day. Baby plus small dog should be possible.
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Kodi Pie - CGC ESA

Why sit when you- could lie down?
 
 
Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 10:34am PST 
The baby's door is open because the rules of the mobile home park they live in says no AC units in windows facing the street. The way their house is on the lot leaves only two rooms that can have AC units, one of which is the baby's room. With 90+ degree weather, they needed as much relief as possible.
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Sasha

Mommy's little- Princess
 
 
Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 10:44am PST 
Put up a gate in the babys room to keep the dog out. Also maybe the dog isn't getting enough attention. Typically when baby moves in dogs get pushed to the side. And now with a new baby coming wow. They need to make more time for this dog. Also he is going to bite if they aren't careful. Babies like to pull ears and tails. Here is what I would do.

1. more time with the dog. When the baby is napping the dog gets his turn for play time and attention one on one. He is craving that.

2. for the growling and nipping. Training class (it would be really helpful, at petco and petsmart I think its like 90 dollars cheaper if your dog was a shelter dog) if they can't do that I would suggest reading plenty of training books.

3. They need to make sure this dog feels he is part of the family. Just because there is a baby and another baby on the way doesn't mean you let the dog take a backseat.

Some things need to change on the human side of things, if not this dog will not get any better.

And I almost hate to suggest it and normally i wouldn't but if they don't feel they can devote the time and energy to change this and spend time with him then maybe they should rehome him. That way he will have someone who will take the time to care for him and be able to manage life and him better.


thats all i got.
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Sasha

Mommy's little- Princess
 
 
Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 10:46am PST 
I'm not trying to be rude but this is going to be a lot of work. And take a lot of time and patience.


I hope it works out if not I feel for what could happen if the behavior gets worse (not just for the dog but the children as well) It sounds like he is just there and with a 1 year old and another child on the way its going to get harder

Maybe someone else will have better advice


by the way dogs don't get mad, they don't hold a grudge, and they don't try to get even. They don't act out due to anger.

They aren't wired like people

Edited by author Mon Aug 25, '08 10:47am PST

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Kodi Pie - CGC ESA

Why sit when you- could lie down?
 
 
Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 10:56am PST 
Thanks for the suggestions...

Everybody says dogs dont get mad... but if you saw the way he behaves, you might change your mind. I have never seen another dog stare you in the eye as he walks over and pees on.... the basket of fresh laundry/playstation/novel you were reading/baby toys/grocery bags. The list goes on and on...
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Dollybaby

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Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 11:02am PST 
Sounds like my DD i have a 8 month old furless granddaughter by her and a 1 year old grandpup. When the baby was new she had a bad child on her hands jealousey!!
and i told her she needs to devide her attention just like she would if it was a new baby and a three year old child. Also let her in on the raising of the child let her be a big sister. Never chase her away.

It was good advice to her. Now baby and her get on just like two onery children and even get into trouble together!!! Granny thinks thats cool how they are in cahoots now to drive mommy bonkers. LOL
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Riley

Too smart for my- own good!

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Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 11:56am PST 
I'm guessing the dog gets attention when he potties in the house though? Even if it's negative? Dogs will be amazing things simply for attention and they don't care if it's negative!

I agree with the PP to start over again on house training. Physically taking the dog outside and praising and treating for going potty. I'm guessing that part of the reason he's going potty inside is to get attention so if he gets even more (positive) attention for going outside then that will quickly break him of the habit.

Does this particular dog have a routine? Same type of thing every day at the same time? I thinking that will also help, and maybe add in some designated doggie time every day too (doesn't have to be a long period of time though). But routine and structure and yes, more attention is what this dog seems to be craving. Maybe also add some interactive or puzzle toys to help keep him occupied when the owners can't pay attention to him. Is he very food motivated?
Kodi Pie - CGC ESA

Why sit when you- could lie down?
 
 
Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 1:32pm PST 
He is reasonibly food motivated...

Trying to find things to keep him occupied is tough as he can destroy anything... It only took him one day to destroy the firehose toy.

My sister gets up, takes him out of the crate and lets him out to potty while she showers, scratches him while she watches A baby story, gets the baby up and dressed, feeds and waters Rufus, gives him a treat and puts him outside. When my BIL gets home, he lets Rufus in, plays for a while and/or takes him for a walk.

After that I am not sure, I dont think the evening count as a routine as there is not a set pattern.
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Sasha

Mommy's little- Princess
 
 
Barked: Mon Aug 25, '08 1:57pm PST 
You say Rufus is Jack Russell terrier/Chihuahua?

There is part of the problem. Jack Russells are very high energy dogs and need constant stimulation. And chis tend to be a nervous hyper dog. (Not in all cases I have a lab/JRT/Chi mix and she got all the better qualities infact she is just lazy but if she gets bored she gets destructive.)

He needs something to constantly keep him entertained. How long of a walk does your BIL take him on. I'd say he needs go atleast a mile a day if not more to wear him out. We have a very high energy poodle and it takes a lot of work to tire him out. Atleast walk him an hour. Play fetch with him anything to make him a little tired and expell some of that pent up energy.

they will see a world of difference. And by doing this he does get his one on one time.

Take it from me a tired JRT mix is a good JRT mix (and a tired poodle is a good poodle)
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