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This is a place to gain some understanding of dog behavior and to assist people in training their dogs and dealing with common behavior problems, regardless of the method(s) used. This can cover the spectrum from non-aversive to traditional methods of dog training. There are many ways to train a dog. Please avoid aggressive responses, and counter ideas and opinions with which you don't agree with friendly and helpful advice. Please refrain from submitting posts that promote off-topic discussions. Keep in mind that you may be receiving advice from other dog owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a trainer or behaviorist!
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Kitai
Chia Kitai!
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 | | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 4:55pm PST | |  | |  | | Sorry just saw your edit Vance.
I agree with you that dogs can be socialized to people and other pets in any home. But only if the owner creates the opportunity for such socialiazation.
But I base my comment on the many times when I have gone to peoples homes and they tell me the dog is in the yard, or basement or garage or bedroom because it doesn't like strangers. This is the situation I am talking about. How will their dog fare if it's life hung in the balance of the results of a temperment test?
As for whether it's fine to own a dog and never walk it. Well I would respectfully say that I hope we can agree to disagree on that point. Sure a dog can have a life filled with love from their owners by rarely leaving their yard.... But just watch a dog on a walk and it's so easy to see how much they benefit from the new sites and sounds and smells they encounter on a walk. Just look at how excited a dog who does get to go on walks when you even say the word "walk" or "leash" or "go" to them. Again just my opinion. |  |  | |  |
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Kitai
Chia Kitai!
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 5:00pm PST | | | | | | Duchess I totally understand what you are saying and if it means walking and being attacked by other loose dogs then I would not walk Kitai either. There have been a couple of times when due to the same fear I have put Kitai in the car and driven to a safer area to walk him in. You're right that we need to protect our pups, but my guess is that there are a lot of people who live in safe conditions who simply choose not to walk their pups.
Even my landlord thought I was crazy when he found out I walk Kitai every day. He said since he's so little the backyard was good enough. I disagree completley. Even though he's a smaller dog the walking is what got him past his dog aggresssion, has helped to teach him manners and has helped to create a very strong bond between us. | | | | |
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Duchess
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 5:02pm PST | | | | | | I probably would love going for walks, but I am pretty happy not going for them too. I get to go for a lot of car rides though! Mommy (and when she's not here, Grandpaw) take me for car rides. I get so excited about my car rides. If only Mommy would leave the window open... grr. She said that's not safe though. Oh how I would love to stick my head out the window!
That said, if there were a leash law in my neighborhood (the city has one, but we live in the county just outside city limits), Mommy would probably take me on a lot of walks. There's no dog park here either. So there's really nowhere for me to go for a safe walk. There are some really big, vicious doggies in my neighborhood. And they are not fenced in. I guess whether or not you go for walks really depends on the area you live in.
ETA: I'm glad you understand, Kitai. I hope when Mommy graduates from college and we move somewhere else, I will be able to start going for walks. I live with my Grandpawrents for the most part, now. I think if Mommy did live here full-time, instead of just some weekends, she would probably drive me somewhere for walkies.Edited by author Mon Dec 4, '06 5:05pm PST
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Kitai
Chia Kitai!
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 5:13pm PST | | | | | | Awww Duchess I'm sorry if my intial words sounded too harsh. I seriously did not mean to imply anyone who doesn't walk their dog is wrong and I am right. I've just known too many people who didn't even consider walking a priority and the only thing stopping them is their own decision not to, not a lack of time, safety or other reasons like that.
I'm glad you are able to at least take Duchess for car rides which is still another great way for pups to experience new places, sites, smells and people.
Botttom line I think that Cesar encouraging people to walk their dogs every day is a good thing. | | | | |
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Alice Rose of Lily MACH7, UDX9
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 5:18pm PST | | | | | | His being an illegal immigrant at one time is especially important!! That says a lot about a person and his integrities. Furthermore, I would never trust a trainer that was NOT certified, licsensed, and accredited. There are too many cons and not one pro when it comes to Cesar in my mind. | | | | |
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Sammi
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 5:31pm PST | | | | | | The show is for entertainment. He does have a good rapport with pets and people, kind of charming.
You really should follow the advice at the beginning of the show that says never to try any of his methods without contacting a professional trainer. But some people try the stunts on the show Jackass too., and there is a disclaimer there too.
There is a good message in that show. That dogs can be reformed, it's too bad that some people would rather give up a problem dog than to deal with the issues with a professional trainer. | | | | |
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Kiona CGC
The Prettiest- Princess
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 6:12pm PST | | | | | | I agree with the well worded arguments of Vance and Marlowe.
Plain and simple: Milan teaches people to be bullies with their dogs. He teaches people to be jerks to their dogs every single day.
Siberians are a difficult breed. They have to respect you, they have to see you as "in charge" , pack leader, whatever. I also do not think our dogs see us other dogs, but I do think they see us as thier family. They need to trust that you will make the right decisions for them. I truly think Kiona is as obedient as she is because she gets why I ask her to do things I do. Because my deicsions have never landed her in trouble. Simple as that. I never ask her to do pointless displays of obedience. Those types of people who have to have a dog that OBEYS THEIR EVERY COMMAND are just pandering to their own ego.
Kiona and I have not had any need to "re-establish" our relationship with one another for over 6 years because there is no reason. We are completly comfortable with one another. For me to "assert my dominance" over her on a continual basis, which is what Milan would have me do, would be rude. Rude in "dog world" and rude in "people world", no matter how you look at it.
Difficult dogs will respond far better to fair, consisten, loving, and understanding training over being treated with no respect anyday.
For the record, I would LOVE to Cesar try and train a Siberian. It would be hilarious.Edited by author Mon Dec 4, '06 6:12pm PST
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