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This is a place to gain some understanding of dog behavior and to assist people in training their dogs and dealing with common behavior problems, regardless of the method(s) used. This can cover the spectrum from non-aversive to traditional methods of dog training. There are many ways to train a dog. Please avoid aggressive responses, and counter ideas and opinions with which you don't agree with friendly and helpful advice. Please refrain from submitting posts that promote off-topic discussions. Keep in mind that you may be receiving advice from other dog owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a trainer or behaviorist!
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Elsie Mae- Ray
Cherry Angel and- Elsie NUN- furever pals
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 | | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 8:36am PST | |  | |  | | I LOVE him! He was sooooo helpful for a problem we had with our dogs. I dont think he is a trainer but just sort of reinforces the kind of common sense things like exercise, being calm and in charge and not spoiling a dog. Dogs are dogs not people with fur coats. ( I have to repeat this to myslef often!) His methods for treating most behaviors are the same used in treating people with OCD . Exposure and habituation. I knwo he is very controversial, I am not sure why but then again I am no dog expert. I think most people know he is a tv personality and not to try these things themselves. he even says that. |  |  | |  |
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Zak (Jakuba- Zakara 'n- Simoon)
Gads, What a- Monsta!!!
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 9:00am PST | | | | | | We love Caesar....mainly because he's educating the public about DOG behavior and that treating your dog like a human will NOT work. CANINES have their own set of rules and it's important to know why DOGS do the things they do.
While I don't approve of alpha rollover technique on our dogs (not a good training method for sighthounds), it's appropriate for more dominant type breeds. Dogs that are aggressive are not only a danger to their owners, but are dangerous to the public as well. The one message that he continually tries to convey is that for the most part people unknowingly enable their dogs to act the way they do. He's not just educating the dogs, he's educating their owners as well.
I learn something new from his show every time I watch it. | | | | |
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Pirate CGC
Bunny-Butts are- the only way. |
| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 10:33am PST | | | | | | I agree with the poster who earlier barked that anybody with good knowledge would have a well rounded view--Not just mimicking everything Millan does, but takes training and behaviour from many tips and places, like books and other trainers from different backgrounds and breeds and finding what works for the individual.
Ceaser taught me to be much calmer. Other trainers have this philosphy, but perhaps seeing it in action really persuades the human mind more than a trainer telling you , " Just say things calmly to him." Or " Don't get excited while walking him".
I am also quite curious why people don't like this man. He seems to be quite helpful in educating the general public in the way thier dog's minds work. And he is very consistent. I sometimes tire of his phrases because it is so simple and straight forward to him. And it is ALWAYS the owner's fault, not the dogs. And I feel thats something many people really just don't know. | | | | |
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Marlowe, CGC
BAH-ROO-ROO-ROOO- OO!!! |
| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 10:53am PST | | | | | | What I personally dislike is his emphasis on dominance and submission. I think he way overuses that paradigm when evaluating behavior. It makes people think that every time their dog makes a mistake its because the dog is trying to be dominant. Dogs make mistakes, dogs get confused, dogs get scared, dogs sometimes learn the wrong thing, we don't communicate very well with them in the first place most of the time, and we rarely know enough about their language to understand what they're trying to tell us.
There's a lot of scientific research that has been done on domestic dogs and the Dog Whisperer's ideas and techniques fly in the face of most of it. Here's a link to a number of professional animal behavior experts who are speaking out about him. I think it's really important for people to understand that just because someone is on TV doesn't mean that he isn't controversial or that he's endorsed by any other dog behavior professionals. And speaking out against him does not mean that anyone is jealous. No idea is above being questioned. The study of animal behavior is a science (known as ethology and sometimes applied animal behavior) and all science has to be open to questioning and debate. | | | | |
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Jakob
Shoe collector- extraordinaire..- . |
| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 10:56am PST | | | | | | I'm a big Cesar Fan as well... Our dogs were tearing each other apart... literally. They were fighting, we were keeping them completely separate, we were miserable and so were they. We were on the verge of re-homing one of them. As a last resort we decided to try training them using Cesar's methods... they are completely different dogs now!!!
They get along, they respect us (and each other) and are much better behaved in all aspects. I'm not trying to preach... that's just my experience.
I'd also be interested in hearing why people dislike Cesar... | | | | |
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Vance
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| | Barked: Mon Dec 4, '06 12:00pm PST | | | | | | In reading a lot of what he's written and what's been written about him, I believe he's invented a character and a pretty shady one at that. He apparently has no verifiable background in anything. His website consists of a lot of feel-good catch phrases that don't really mean anything (there is no such thing as a "red zone aggressive" dog). But he takes the name "Dog Whisperer," probably after Monty Roberts (he is NOT the original dog whisperer though, that title belongs to Paul Owens) and claims to communicate with dogs on their level. It makes people feel good. No one questions him. I'm not entirely sure whether to blame Ceser or National Geographic for this.
I also dislike his emphasis on dominance. The majority of people I talk to now believe that a dog who pulls on leash, goes through a door first, gets on the furnature, and jumps on people is trying to be dominant. No. The dog just doesn't know how to walk on leash, and is probably reacting to the REFLEX to push into the pressure of the collar. No dog really cares who goes through the door first unless they're feeling pretty insecure, the couch is comfortable, and if we insist on walking upright, they're going to have to jump to reach our mouths and greet us properly. The vast majority of dogs have no problems with pack order in relation to humans. They're just untrained.
Alpha rolling is an awful technique for any dog. Dogs do not alpha roll each other. Dogs are much more psychological than they are physical. The roll is a non-threatening gesture that the submissive dog decides to make on it's own. It's not always a submissive move, either. There are huge grey areas in everything involving dog language, which seems to be something Ceser neglects to mention while he's poking and shhing and advancing on growling dogs. | | | | |
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