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Is it OK to be mad when others correct my dog?
Hi guys, I take my 5-month-old puppy for walks at the beach everyday and she gets pretty excited and jumps up on people. Today a man smacked her down to the ground and made her cry out. This has happened before with another lady. Is it right for me to get angry at these people? I am trying to correct this behavior in my puppy and I feel that these people really aren't helping me. She doesn't jump up at home because she knows it's wrong...how do I get her to do it in public!?
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It is up to you how you manage your dog and I myself would definitely be unhappy about somebody other than myself smacking my dog if needed! Of course it is right for you to be angry how dare they. Shes only a puppy bless her.
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answered on 8/12/11.
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Yes. Calmly but firmly inform the person that your dog is in training and that you are teaching her not to jump up but you don't appreciate them hitting your dog. You can also scare them a bit and say if she landed wrong, you will be sending them the vet bill and would they please provide their driver's license for contact information? It is rude for a dog to jump, but it is unacceptable to strike a dog and in fact could get them bit!
To help curb the jumping, get a friend Malley doesn't know to help you. Pretend they're a complete stranger and walk up. When she gets excited, both of you stop and wait until she's calm. If she doesn't calm (puppies sometimes don't) turn around and walk away. Closer and closer until she can meet your friend the "stranger". If she gets excited, turn around and walk away. Let her calm down. Try again.
Do it in small sessions until she's calm with a wide variety of people who are in on it and then try with a real stranger. Small steps and patience!
Dingo
answered on 8/12/11.
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Sorry, no matter how old, I believe it's the owners job to control a dog.
Sonny is my jumper. I would put a drag line on him and step on it so he can't jump on people. I hate it when a dog jumps on me, and I know how to handle it so the dog learns not to jump - rather than learn stranger hurt. Not everyone does, so do your job as pet parent and head her off before it goes that far.
Work on her recall and only greet people while leashed so she isn't jumping.
Practice a lot in public places.
Sonny
answered on 8/12/11.
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I am with Sonny on this one. I absolutely HATE when someone's dog jumps on me.
I have taught all my dogs an instant sit, so that if someone is coming along, I can sit them, then leash them until that person passes.
Until that sit is trained 100%, they DO NOT go off leash at all, if they are anywhere other people or dogs may be. As they get better, I will allow them to drag a leash so that I can grab the leash to help them into their sit command if necessary.
I firmly believe it is YOUR responsibility to not allow YOUR dog to jump on someone. While I would never physically correct a dog that is jumping on me, (mainly because I believe it is the owner's fault), I will verbally correct that dog's owner!!!!
Toto, CD, RN, CGC
answered on 8/13/11.
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Sorry..but I'm with Toto & Sonny. It is not up to the public to control your dog..it is up to you. If you do not have control, do not let her get into situations where this will happen. Train, train, train..then train some more.
Wiley
answered on 8/13/11.
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personally i would verbally correct the person who smacked my dog and i would scare them by telling them that she is a special needs dog and by complete strangers smacking her she could learn not to trust strangers at all and she could become aggressive towards them you need to nip this in the butt now before it gets worse my dog is a jumper too although i try my hardest not to get him to where he gets to jumping up he only jumps up on me when i ask for it again the people probably didn't see the dog but when she jumped on them (it probably startled them) they most likely saw it as an aggressive behavior or being attacked and fended the dog off but still it isn't right and i would be very angry (angry enough to spout out some harsh words with them) and ask for their drivers license and info and i would tell them that if she is hurt they would have to pay for the vet bill dont let other people treat your dog like this again it is a form of abuse
*Tommy*
answered on 8/13/11.
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Your 5-month-old puppy isn't quite old enough yet to translate behavior into all aspects of her life. Teaching her "Off" for not jumping on people will give you and her a word to rely on.
I am afraid I would get rather hostile to anyone who smacked my dog to the ground hard enough to make her cry out. It is most certainly all right to get mad. I hope you said something.
Donovan
answered on 8/15/11.
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I believe that you should be the only one to correct your dog using physical contact. I would definately be upset if someone hit my dog. Although, I must say I am allways near my dog to tell him not to jump and he listens to me very well. I would reccomend a zip line leash so your dog can run around and you also have the option of control. At least untill you have full confidence in your dog and can just verbally control him.
Louie
answered on 8/15/11.
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WELL, YES AND NO. IF IT'S A TRAINER, IT USUALLY DOES CORRECTION CORRECTLY. IF IT'S YOUR FRIEND, RELATIVE OR ANYTHING ELSE, THEY ON'T HAVE THE RIGHT. MY FRIENDS ALWAYS GIVE CORRECTIONS AND AFFECTION AT THE WRONG TIME. DON'T LET THEM!
Member 1040886
answered on 8/15/11.
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It is okay to be upset with someone for correcting your dog without your permission.
However, YOU are also partly at fault here - you set your dog up for this by putting her in a situation where she is able to jump on people you don't know. It is very rude to let your dog jump on random people at the beach. You need a (shorter?) leash so you can control her until she is better trained.
Bianca loves people, and she is a jumper sometimes. When meeting new people, she is required to sit next to us, and is not allowed to go greet the person until she is calm enough that she will not jump on them. If she tries to jump, she is removed from the situation, made to wait until she is calm, and then we try again. In the beginning it took about 20 tries, now not usually more than 2.
You need to work with Malley more on training, with some people who are willing to help you; until then, no more allowing her to get close enough to jump on an unknown person without their permission.
Bianca
answered on 8/15/11.
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I would be livid if somebody hit my dog. You can't legally hit somebody's child, I don't feel you should legally be able to hit somebody's dog.
That said, as others have stated, it is up to you do manage the jumping. At this stage, if you absolutely cannot stop her, don't give her enough leash to reach people you pass while walking. Then, work on training an incompatible behavior; a good one is "sit", since a sitting dog is not a jumping dog. Watch her body language and learn to recognize the steps leading into the jump. Then, start to cue her for "sit" (providing she knows "sit", if not, now is a good time to learn!) when you see her gathering to jump.
Elka, NTD
answered on 8/15/11.
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Usually, I would say that someone should ask the owner to control/correct their dog...but, in the case of a dog running up to someone and jumping up, that person has a right to protect themselves. Although the puppy's being playful, not everyone interprets it that way and actually you could get you and your dog in some serious trouble if the puppy jumps on someone and either frightens or injures them, regardless of intent. I know it angers you to see someone hurt your dog, and that much force seems excessive, but if the person being approached isn't experienced with dogs they may not know a better means of responding. I'm sure with some more training you'll get that bundle of energy and enthusiasm to show a little restraint...if you are in training classes let the trainer know that controlling the jumping is high priority for youl
Ellie CGC
answered on 8/16/11.
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correcting my dog is fine...a simple no or down...but WOW if someone smacked my dog, that's asking for it right there. lol. Sorry you and your dog had to go through that.
Snoopy
answered on 8/16/11.
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Wow, that is shocking! I would be very very angry if someone smacked my puppy! I would certainly have said something to the man and in not a very nice way. I agree it is the owner's responsibility to train their dog, but that does not give others the right to put their hands on your dog when they are acting out - especially when you are talking about a puppy that is still learning her boundaries.
Seamus
answered on 8/16/11.
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This question is loaded. You should be angry when someone actively seeks out your dog to correct them but you should feel embarrassed when it's your dog harassing strangers and you can't call her off.
In this instance I think you can only blame yourself. It's not society's job to be kind, caring, and patient with your dog and of COURSE strangers "really aren't helping" you. Personally, I've had encounters with people who think their dog is OK to go off-leash even when they don't respond to commands. It's a nightmare when I'm walking my leash-aggressive dog and I see someone's dog streaking towards us with no leash and no recall. It never ends pretty!
Please, for her safety, put her on a leash until she is under your command. And don't get mad at others if she isn't.
Member 1026024
answered on 8/16/11.
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Many a dog has jumped up on me (not aggressively), and I would never ever consider hitting someone else's (or my own for that matter) dog. It's not a good way to train and no one should hit your dog. But to protect her, you must keep her on a short leash while she is learning. You never know when you'll come across someone who will react in the way the people you've already encountered have. Good luck with her training; with patience, persistence and positive reinforcement she'll get there!
Lola
answered on 8/17/11.
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Ugh..I can't stand it when people say, "Well, actually it's YOUR fault the dog jumps." Actually it isn't your fault. Puppies jump, and sometimes it takes awhile for them to learn not to. It's not your fault. It is a good idea and part of being responsible for your pet to train that kind of behavior out of her, though, but I'm sure you already know that, so I'm not going to emphasize it. People used to criticize me all of the time when I asked for advice on how to train my dog, and I didn't appreciate it when I needed help. I've found with training my two dogs that the only way to correct the behavior is when the dog actually does it. Just apologize and explain to the people she jumps on that she's a puppy...still exhibiting puppy behavior and you're working on it. But tell them you will discipline your dog YOUR way, and hitting her is NOT going to teach her anything useful. Not all dogs respond to being hit, not that I agree with that method anyway.
Daegan
answered on 8/17/11.
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A 5 month old puppy can knock an elderly or mobility impaired person over, resulting in broken hips, etc. The elderly person is more likely to be injured than a 5 month old pup is. I agree with those who say until your dog is trained not to jump on any one, keep her on leash and prevent this behavior. I do not like an out-of-control dog rushing me and/or my dog and will defend myself/my dog by pushing the rude dog away. I would never hit a dog, but I physically block them from jumping on me and/or my small dog (25 lbs) who can get easily injured by such behavior.
Rethy (reethy) CGC, PSD
answered on 8/17/11.
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Hi Guys
Thanks for all your help its been very useful. you all had lots of good tips to help me! I feel much better that you believe its not ok to hit someone elses dog.
I am aware that it is my responsibility to train Malley and make sure she doesnt get in these situations but this occurred when I was already very close and already in the process of disciplining her to stop.
She is only a medium sized dog and I always take extreme care when I know someone who would be knocked over by my dog is approaching. I dont let her run riot around the place.
Malley
answered on 8/17/11.
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Yes, you should be close enough or have a lead on her to prevent her from jumping in the first place, but that said...
It is NEVER acceptable for ANYONE to lay their hands on someones dog to "correct" them. I would be more than angry, I would be furious. A random stranger on the beach smacking your dog does not teach your dog not to jump. This is NOT a correction! It is only teaching Malley to be fearful of strangers! She is greeting someone in standard puppy fashion, and her greeting is met with a painful smack. Puppies need gentle guidance, not man handling.
Kadan
answered on 8/18/11.
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Hey Malley, I've got a similar situation except with a neighbor. My cats and dogs are overall well-behaved but if they do something HE doesn't like - even if they aren't doing it to him and my husband and I allow our pets to do - he corrects them!
My husband laughs it off and tells him "the cat/dog is okay but thanks for trying to help." I get boiling mad and have to bite my tongue, almost literally. Needless to say, we hardly ever invite the neighbor to come over anymore. Nobody but me needs to discipline my pets.
Looks like you've gotten a lot of great advice here. Good luck!!
Samwise
answered on 8/18/11.
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I would be angry if someone "smacked" my dog. But it's also hard to blame a complete stranger who has a random dog jumping on them as they go about their day. Some people have a dog phobia or just don't like dogs. Like someone else mentioned, they have the right to protect themselves. You should keep your dog on a leash until she is better trained. If you want to train her not to jump on others, enlist the help of some friends and go to a secluded park or beach or something... some people who don't mind getting jumped on. I would be upset if someone else's dog jumped on me. It happened once when we were walking our dogs and two huge pit bulls came and were jumping up on me. They were friendly but I did use my hand to "push" them off of me -- I was protecting myself and my dogs and that's my first priority.
Kally
answered on 8/18/11.
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Yep, I would defininetely dislike someone smacking my dog. Particularly since I should be the one getting smacked for letting my dog run up to someone and jump on them.
Keep your puppy on a long line. This will help you maintain control. Moreover, you migt consider that every time your puppy manages to run up to someone and jump on them, you are letting it practice unwanted behaviors and therefore hindering your training. Manage your dog, everyone is happy.
Bhaira
answered on 8/18/11.
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If I see someone coming very close to my pup I make him sit until the person passes. He is still learning. However some people will walk up to a small dog before they will a larger breed. I also inform them that he is still learning. It doesn't stop people always but some will rethink trying to pet him. Have you tried using her commands before she starts to jump? A sharp command to sit/stay/down whatever you use at home, perhaps limit the amount of people until she is better socialized.
Member 1045682
answered on 8/18/11.
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That would make me soo mad!
I can't stand when people tease my dog, let alone HIT her! She barks and they'll bang on the fence teasing her. People have nerve really.
To stop the jumping I would gently tug the lease down ward and say "No, Down!" If she knows the "down" command, that would work better.
The down trick can be used by lowering the treat to the floor, she'll lie down. Say the command and repeat (:
Gia
answered on 8/31/11.
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NO it is not ok for people to smack your dog to the ground and npt the public is not reasponsible to correct you dog you are BUT knowing the dog will jump and if you would stay alert not saying you don't you would pull the dog in on a short leash and when someone passes you by the dog will not jump on them if it tries you say no and give a small jerk and put the dog in a sit down and stay. It is bad manners for a dog to jump on anyone no matter where you are and the people that smack your dog I would inform them that it is considered ANIMLA CRUELTY to smack and animal that is not thiersw as it would be for a person to correct a child that is not thiers. I understand the side of the people but if the dog started to jump they COULD GO AROUND YOUR DOG huh? Just a thought or on seeing someone you could tell them your dog jumps. I don't know what else to tell you.
Rhayden
Starbutt
answered on 10/28/11.
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YES be mad! its just a puppy. i would be very angry on the inside but i would make it obvious to the mean person that im bothered without being rude (if possable)... i know i wouldnt feel scared or anything like that if a puppy was being playfull and jumping on me. i would think its cute. i dont expect perfect behavior just like with a todler or a pre-schooler. but if it were a large dog i would be nervous unless i knew the owner & dog. also if a medium or large dog jumped on one of my children- i would turn into a mamma bear. i wouldnt actually hurt the dog unless it was trying to hurt them, or looking like it was about to hurt them. if the owner is around i feel that he/she would correct the dog &apologize &i wouldnt do anyything to the dog. we all know sometimes they just behave strange for whatever reason and we do the best we can.
Member 1071518
answered on 12/11/11.
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OF COURSE!!!!!! I mean yes training is important, but i mean smaling the dog to the ground?!?! Thats uncalled for even if the dog is not trained. Making the dog cry out is cruel, uncalled for, and would (is) drive me insane!!!!!!! I would scare them a little. If they acted like they knew whatthey were doing and simply scolded the dog, that would be A LOT less insane!!!!! Obviously you were dealing with a person who is not keen on manners with other dogs and im sorry that your dog had to go through that. UG, THE NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE!!!!! i would advise to work onyour training and just tell people that she is working on it. Perhaps thet will prevent an ecounter lile this that is unpleasent for you and the puppy.
Cosette
answered on 12/26/11.
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[sorry im sure you have more than enough answers already]
I don't think that its at all wrong to get mad or upset...I do agree with teaching her the word "off/down" for public [it'll come with time & patience, dont worry.... my 1yr old Pit bull is still learning that one...]. I hate it when other people try handing out correction to my dogs [especially even before the dog did anything at all...], but if they've experienced dogs & know a thing or two, then I will let them. Also I will not be afraid to let a friend's dog know that its not alright to be jumping by simply either ignoring the dog, or telling it a quick 'thats enough/no'
Anyways, I think I've rambled enough. Good luck with puppy-training, she is an adorable little girl! :)
Otto
answered on 3/22/12.
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When your dog jumps have the person turn in to her. But do it with someone that you know that she hasnt met or barely knows. When they do this they should say "off" then a treat when shes calm. Sooner or later she will learn the command off so that way in the future if she does jump you can say off and she will listen.
Carter
answered on 4/5/12.
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It is totally okay to yell at them although dont get too carried away. This actually happened to me a few monthes back. I was walking my dog with a pinch collar she has trouble walking well when this dude comes up with his dog and .y dog doesn't do well with other dogs either and his dog bit mine so they get in a tussle and the guy grabs MY DOGS LEASH and PULLS HER OFF THE GROUND CHOKING HER. Of course I was too scared to do anything and started screaming TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN STUPID DOG WOULD YA! and so from this day on my family calls him the bonehead.
Sadie Mae
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